> As for your second point, the Epson 4000 DOES do good B&W right out of the > box, so that makes your statment obsolete. Hang on now. I have an Epson 4000. It does produce "good" B&W out of the = box and in fact produces slightly better B&W out of the box than the 2200 o= r the 9600 (I have the 9600 currently and had a 2200). But the 4000 does not= produce neutral B&W, nor does it produce non-metamerismic B&W. The prints are still warm and still have color shifting in different light. So= , I'm not contesting that the 4000 is a bit better in this regard, but from my experi= ence, it wouldn't be accurate for anyone to see the 4000 as a vast improvement for B= & W. For exhibition or sale quality B&W, I would not be satisfied w. the 400= 0's performance out of the box. I don't want to over-lawyer this, but let's look at what Epson says regardi= ng the 4000 and B&W (taken from their website): * Significantly improves the printer's gray balance while eliminating color= casts Incorrect. "Eliminates" is an objective standard meaning that something no= longer exists. Untrue -- there is still a clearly noticeable color cast. * Dramatically improves the midtones and highlights for smoother transition= s Maybe. No comment on this one. * Enhances the ICC profiling process for ColorSync and ICM workflows Uh, OK, I'll give them this one, since it's so vague that it doesn't mean anything. *Professional Level Black & White Photographic Printing Incorrect again. I suppose I'd have to convene an expert panel, but the proliferation of 3rd pty inks and RIPs is sufficient evidence that the nati= ve B&W is not "professional level." Otherwise, why would all of these professiona= ls be spending thousands of extra dollars. I do not know of and have not read a = statement by a single professional photographer who produces exhibition or = sale B&W just using the native Epson driver and ultrachrome inks (with the = possible exceptions of Greg Gorman and Vincent Versace (paid Epson spokespersons) who I bet, if you sat them down in a room, would admit that = they have reservations regarding B&W out of the box w. ultrachrome printers= ). * Produces a truly consistent image with little color crossover or colorcas= ts Please. I assume I don't need to detail why this is untrue or at least misleading. I guess "little" is relative, so yes, compared to say a printi= ng method that produces a lime green color cast for B&W, this statement could = be objectively true. And I'll admit that B&W is "consistent" in that you consistently get non-neutral metamerismic prints using the native driver. * Reduced metamerism on 7-color black & white& prints Reduced compared to what? The 2200/7600/9600? Perhaps slightly, if measured with an electron microscope, so this statement could be seen as literally true. But still misleading. * Depending upon media, produces a black D-max up to 2.1 OK. * Produces sellable quality neutral or toned black and white prints Nope, unless you're selling to someone who's colorblind or likes color shif= ting in different lighting conditions. And "neutral" is a word with an objectiv= e connotation not based solely on subjective perception, and it's clear that = B&W w. the 4000 (and the other ultrachrome printers) is not objectively neutral= .
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Re: RIPped off
2004-05-14 by chipcarterdc
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