Digital BW, The Print

Hello again Roy,

Ok, that makes sense. Just to clarify one point, in your last para 
where you say the print could be smoother, are you referring to the 
1160 print? If so, then "wow" would be my main comment to that!

TIA

-= mike =-

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" 
<roy@h...> wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> At the moment I just have UC inks in my 2200 so I can't tell you
> what I'd get with different inks and QTR on the 2200.
> 
> I think the primary reason for the smooth 1160 is just simply that
> it has a lighter gray than the UT7 or UT2 inkset.  The effect of a
> lighter gray is beneficial in two ways.  First the dots are simply
> lighter and even in a field of white they are less obvious. Second,
> for a given shade on the paper, you will be using more dots and
> therefore they fill in the spaces more.
> 
> I've looked at the scan a little more and it appears that there are
> also a fair amount of the sepia ink dots -- yellow slot.  I think 
the
> print was made with the "default" method where the Epson driver
> mixes all the inks to produce what it thinks is neutral.  There's a
> good possibility that using the PS curves it would be smoother.
> 
> Roy
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mike_nunan" 
> <mike.nunan@c...> wrote:
> > Hi Roy,
> > 
> > Maybe it is a driver issue between those two. Are you set up to 
do a 
> > QTR UT print on the 2200? That would settle it I guess.
> > 
> > Also, what do you think it is about the 1160/VM combination that 
> > makes it so smooth? VM only has black and three grey shades, same 
as 
> > UT, right?
> > 
> > -= mike =-
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roy 
Harrington" 
> > <roy@h...> wrote:
> > > --- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mike_nunan" 
> > > <mike.nunan@c...> wrote:
<snip>
> > > 
> > > Hi Mike,
> > > 
> > > I was also a little surprised at that difference as well.  I 
think 
> > the
> > > dotsizes of both printers is advertized as 4 picoliter so that 
> > > shouldn't be a factor.   I don't know if there's any difference 
in 
> > the
> > > densities of the inks in the two sets.  Maybe Paul can address 
that.
> > > That pretty much leaves the driver as the only signiicant
> > > difference.  The 1270 print was done with QTR with curves I 
made.
> > > The 2200 print was done using the Epson driver so its a little
> > > hard to say what ink is used where.  My guess is that it uses 
one of
> > > the darker inks (maybe the LK) at a lighter gray.
> > > 
> > > Roy