John, >Do you notice any difference in apearance between the print >sprayed with Lascaux and Print Guard. I do see the dmax advantage of Lascaux in side-by-side test strips. Other than that they look the same to me. > I've been using Priemier Art >Print Shield and have not been able to detect its presence after >spraying. Can you "See" either of the other products, any gloss, Etc. To me, when I just do 3 light coats, the images look the same as the unsprayed prints. The paper white, for example, is unchanged. On many matte papers the dmax is also unchanged with light spraying. >Also, do you know what the Laquer formula is for either the Print >Guard or Print Shield. No, I don't know what they are made of. The Premier Imaging people call it a "lacquer" instead of an acrylic, but I often think of the term "lacquer" as just generic. Many of the traditional lacquers, such as nitrocellulose lacquer, yellowed. Acrylic, on the other hand, has about the best reputation for not yellowing. So, when a company tells me the product is a "lacquer" and not acrylic, this is not really a positive statement. On the other hand, the Wilhelm, de facto, stamp of approval for PremierArt Print Shield does carry some weight with me. It and Lascaux (B72 formula) are at the top of my list (PremierArt to reduce bronzing on glossy paper, and Lascaux for the matte papers). Grumbacher Tuffilm is just down a notch, having a nozzle that is not as good, especially for glossy prints; for matte papers the nozzle is fine. (The Grumbacher fixative is cheap and readily available, but I have not tested it for dmax decrease on UltraSmooth or Scrapbook.) There may be other great clear coats, but if they are unknown proprietary formulas, they are, I believe, going to need some age testing to be accepted in the fine art field. Paul www.PaulRoark.com ____________________________ --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > Steve wrote: > > >I have been using Lyson Print Guard (same product) on my HPR prints for > >framing without glazing. It looks fine but a measured step wedge will show > >a significant shift in density post spraying, including a large drop in > >dMax. > > > I've seen and measured this with UltraSmooth and PremierArt Print Shield, > which, as you note, appears to be the same as Lyson Print Guard (though the > Premier Imaging people deny they are the same). > > Perhaps related to this is the observation by another forum member that the > surface of smooth prints can feel a bit gritty after spraying with > PremierArt Print Shield, at least when used in hot, dry conditions. After > looking into it, this person concluded that the solvents in the PremierArt > Print Shield were so quick to dry that the coating was starting to solidify > before hitting the print. Lascaux Fixativ, however, uses solvents that are > less volatile and, thus, may keep its acrylic in liquid form long enough to > more effectively surround the pigment particles and lock them to the > surface. > > Today I did a comparison of the two sprays on UltraSmooth. I sprayed two > test strips of UltraSmooth with 3 coats of the 2 products. The dmax started > at 1.61. The test strip sprayed with PremierArt Print Shield had a dmax > drop to 1.52 and 1.51. The test strip sprayed with Lascaux Fixativ had the > dmax drop to 1.59 and 1.57. > > Perhaps related to this is my finding that PremierArt Print Shield is more > effective at reducing the bronzing on glossy papers than is the Lascaux. > With Lascaux I'll have to find a different procedure than my usual 3-4 > quick, light sprays. > > It appears to me that the PremierArt Print Shield tends to stay on the > surface of the print more, whereas the Lascaux appears to soak in more. The > Lascaux solvents are, apparently, less volatile -- they evaporate slower. > In addition to the chemist's conclusions in this regard, I simply can smell > the Lascaux on the print longer. > > I might add that the drop in dmax does not happen with all matte papers. > UltraSmooth is the paper that I like and use frequently that definitely does > have a tendency to have this happen. From now on, I might be using Lascaux > on it instead of PremierArt Print Shield. (The Lascaux is also the Rohm & > Haas B72 formula that is most highly thought of by the conservation > industry.) > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com
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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Laquer on matte prints?
2004-06-11 by Paul Roark
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