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Re: [Digital BW] Help setting up QTR on 2200

2004-07-20 by Steve Kale

I made one mistake in saying that the psd file was RBG.  It is CMYK but don=
't colour 
manage and your PS mode is still Adobe RGB.

I am using MIS UC inks ie colour with Eboni in the black slot.  I use "two"=
 blacks which are 
partitioned to achieve a gray scale.  For warm these are K and LK.  For Coo=
l I use QTR's 
UC_NEUTRALIZER=YES function to blend LK, LM, and LC to create a cooler LK i=
f you will 
and then partition this with K.  For HPR my Limit_K is 90 and Boost is set =
to 95 if that 
helps.

You must be able to get much greater dMax.  My understanding is that UT K i=
s Eboni or 
near enough at least in terms of dMax.  So your target should be around 1.6=
5.

Print the Ink Separation file in Calibration mode with all the ink limits s=
et to 100.  By in 
Calibration Mode I mean CALIBRATION=YES, select the .calib file in the QTR =
driver settings 
and use QUADTONE RIP CALIBRATION.  This prints the file, a line for each in=
k, at full 
throttle ie the 100 step is maximum for that ink.  You should see that the =
dMax of K is 
around 1.65ish.  But if you were to print with each ink at full throttle th=
en you would fload 
the paper so follow Roy's step 2 instructions and set the ink limit for eac=
h ink.  The 2200 
can handle quite high numbers here...80-90.  (A guide for Boost is 10 point=
s above Limit 
K.)

Having set the ink limits, print the Ink Separation file again in Calib mod=
e (this is the last 
time you use the calib curve in the driver) and measure your 100 steps to s=
et the 
partioning.  

 


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, James Haney <jhaney@m.=
..> 
wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> That is the single most helpful overview of the process I have read so  
> far.
> 
> Thanks for the input. I basically figured most of that out this morning  =

> at about 2:30AM.
> 
> I don't know what printer/ink/paper combo you are using but after all  
> of that I seem to be finding that the UT inkset  is incapable of  
> anything over 1.34 density.
> 
> This is contrary to what I have read on-line but I tried a number of  
> curves and calibration files and cannot seem to get beyond that.
> 
> Just so I am not missing something obvious, or inheriting ink limits  
> built into someone else's ink descriptors, do you have an ink  
> descriptor file that when printed should yield the maximum density on a  =

> 2200 printer?
> 
> James Haney
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 20, 2004, at 6:19 AM, Steve Kale wrote:
> 
> > James
> >
> >  Roy will probably chime in but let me see if I can help you a bit.
> >
> >  The file you want to use is called inkseparation.psd and is an RGB  
> > file.
> >  When you print it make sure that you are using a curve which has the  =

> > setting
> >  CALIBRATION=YES.  This produces a curve with a calib suffix.  You  
> > also must
> >  go to Printer Features in the driver and then Quadtone RIP Settings  
> > and
> >  select Quadtone RIP Calibration.  I am not sure about your second  
> > question
> >  but the basic process here is to choose which inks are going to be
> >  partitioned to create a gray scale (eg your black, light black etc).  =
 
> > The
> >  first step is determine ink limits which essentially are percentages  =

> > at
> >  which point you say I have enough ink for good paper coverage (on the =
 
> > 2200
> >  these are normally quite high).  Ink Separation.psd is printed to  
> > determine
> >  this phase and then again with the ink limits set.  Then you do the
> >  partitioning by essentially looking to see at what density the 100  
> > patch of
> >  the next lightest ink kicks in at.  For example, if patch 100 of  
> > light black
> >  (being the position where your next lightest ink is placed) has a  
> > density
> >  between that of the 55 and 60 of black then the GRAY_INK_2=LK,  
> > GRAY_VAL_2=57
> >  (by interpolation).  QTR then takes all this info and calculates a  
> > curve
> >  (Calibration now = NO ie it is only set to yes when you are printing  =

> > Ink
> >  Separation.psd).  The final step is to linearize this info by  
> > printing a 21
> >  step wedge and following the instructions if you have an Eye-One.   
> > You can
> >  get a visual impression of what the final curve looks like by running
> >  Graph-Curve and dragging the .quad curve into the terminal window and
> >  hitting return.
> >
> >  Steve
> >
> >
> >  From: James Haney <jhaney@m...>
> >  Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> >  Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 23:33:31 -0500
> >  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> >  Subject: [Digital BW] Help setting up QTR on 2200
> >
> >  To anyone with experience with QTR on a Mac Epson 2200 UT inkset (not
> >  UT7)
> >
> >  I have been having lots of problems getting setup some of them based
> >  upon the fact that MIS sent me mis-filled ink carts. Some tech issues
> >  getting CUPS to work on my computer with Panther.
> >
> >  So, everything seems to be installed and working, but the prints are
> >  way off from what I am used to seeing with Piezography.
> >
> >  I am using the UT-MK curves.
> >
> >  The blacks are very weak (1.31)
> >
> >  I am trying to follow the documentation to do a calibration but it
> >  seems to have several inconsistencies:
> >
> >  1) The documentation says to use the pattern test page  
> > "inkpattern.psd"
> >  but there is no such file included in the installer. The documentation=

> >  says that the file is a cmyk file. I found a file called
> >  inkseparation.psd and inkseparation.tif but these are both RGB files.
> >
> >  I tried to print them anyway but the prints were missing lots of
> >  patches and contained no text.
> >
> >  I just downloaded the old beta 8 installer and sure enough the file is=

> >  there, I will try it with that.
> >
> >  2) What is meant by the line " QuadTone RIP Curves is whatever curve
> >  set you want to split up into separate inks?"
> >
> >  Any help getting through this would be GREATLY appreciated. My 1160
> >  with Piezo is not working and I keep getting the blue selenium  
> > problem.
> >
> >  I am on a MAJOR deadline to get some prints out the door for a  
> > customer
> >  by Friday.
> >
> >  Thanks in advance.
> >
> >  James Haney
> >
> >
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