Digital BW, The Print

Interesting development

I did a test this morning to test a hunch.

If you have been following my threads this week you know that MIS sent 
me a set of UT inks that had an improperly filled LM cart that had cool 
instead of sepia toner.

They verified this and sent me out a new batch of inks.

I pulled the original set out and installed the replacement set.

It is with this set that I have been proceeding to calibrate this week 
and having no end of trouble getting sufficient blacks.

After exhausting every possible technical angle I went to the trash can 
and dug out the LK cart from the first set of inks.

I replaced the LK cart, ran a couple of head cleaning cycles, and 
printed out a new calibration page.

There were still streaks in the LK wedge, but, as I had to rush to 
catch my train, I read the 100% patch even with the minor streaks and 
----- 1.5 density.

Apparently there was PK ink in my Eboni cart!

Will this never end?


James



On Jul 21, 2004, at 7:04 AM, James Haney wrote:

> There are 7 wedges
>
> The inks match their descriptions
>
> the LK wedge is identical to the K wedge - both are the darkest. Both
> 100% patches read 1.37
>
> The cart says
> ARC-T0347-QUT
> MIS Ultratone Lt. Black
> www.missupply.com (A0604)
>
>
> On Jul 20, 2004, at 11:16 PM, Roy Harrington wrote:
>
>>
>>  Hi James,
>>
>>  This profile looks good.  (note that the K determines the text 
>> areas).
>>
>>  You should have a page with 7 step wedges and labels.  Right?
>>  What do all the ink look like?  Do they match visually with the ink
>>  description for UT inks?   LK (light black, the last line) should be
>>  Eboni and it should be the darkest.  It sounds like you have actually
>>  an Epson light-black ink.   Is it warm tone?  similar to the other
>> grays?
>>  Does it say "Eboni" on the cartridge?
>>
>>  Roy
>>
>>  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jhaneyzz"
>> <jhaney@m...>
>>  wrote:
>>> Below is the ink descriptor I am using to print the ink pattern
>> test page.
>>>
>>> I am following the directions and advice of posters to the letter.
>>>
>>> I am still getting black densities of 1.37 in the Light Black
>> (Eboni) position.
>>>
>>> I am starting to think I have a improperly marked or filled batch
>> of ink from MIS
>>  (This
>>> would not be the first time) But I hold out hope that I am just
>> missing something.
>>>
>>> I am sure the inks are in the proper slots.
>>>
>>> James Haney
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> #
>>> #  quadtone curve descriptor file
>>> #
>>> #
>>> # the printer name
>>> # the curve name
>>> #   no spaces or special characters, except - or _  (dash or
>> underscore)
>>> #
>>> PRINTER=QUAD2200
>>> CURVE_NAME=2200-UT_test
>>> CALIBRATION=YES
>>> GRAPH_CURVE=YES
>>>
>>> #
>>> # number of inks must be 4, 6, or 7
>>> # the ink limits are percentages
>>> #   usually they are all the same but they can be individually set
>>> #
>>> N_OF_INKS=7
>>> DEFAULT_INK_LIMIT=80
>>>
>>> LIMIT_K=
>>> LIMIT_C=
>>> LIMIT_M=
>>> LIMIT_Y=
>>> LIMIT_LC=
>>> LIMIT_LM=
>>> LIMIT_LK=
>>>
>>> #
>>> #  Describe Usage of each Ink: K,C,M,Y,LC,LM,LK
>>> #    All Inks of Printer must be listed
>>> #
>>>
>>> #
>>> # Gray Partitioning Information
>>> #
>>> N_OF_GRAY_PARTS=5
>>> GRAY_INK_1=K
>>> GRAY_VAL_1=100
>>>
>>> GRAY_INK_2=LK
>>> GRAY_VAL_2=80
>>>
>>> GRAY_INK_3=C
>>> GRAY_VAL_3=44
>>>
>>> GRAY_INK_4=LC
>>> GRAY_VAL_4=22
>>>
>>> GRAY_INK_5=Y
>>> GRAY_VAL_5=8
>>>
>>> GRAY_INK_6=
>>> GRAY_VAL_6=
>>>
>>> GRAY_INK_7=
>>> GRAY_VAL_7=
>>>
>>> GRAY_HIGHLIGHT=0.01
>>> GRAY_SHADOW=0.01
>>>
>>> GRAY_GAMMA=1
>>> GRAY_CURVE=
>>>
>>> #
>>> # Toner Partition Information
>>> #
>>> N_OF_TONER_PARTS=2
>>> TONER_INK_1=M
>>> TONER_VAL_1=100
>>> TONER_INK_2=LM
>>> TONER_VAL_2=100
>>>
>>> TONER_HIGHLIGHT=
>>> TONER_SHADOW=
>>>
>>> TONER_GAMMA=
>>> TONER_CURVE=
>>>
>>> #
>>> # Unused Inks
>>> #
>>> N_OF_UNUSED=0
>>> UNUSED_INK_1=
>>> UNUSED_INK_2=
>>> UNUSED_INK_3=
>>> UNUSED_INK_4=
>>>
>>> #
>>> # the following is a special UltraChrome ink flag
>>> # it copies the light-black curves to the light-cyan and
>> light-magenta inks.
>>> # this insures that the LC and LM inks are used to directly
>> neutralize
>>> # the color of the light-black.
>>> # the color balance of inks is controlled by the LIMIT_... values
>> above.
>>> #
>>> UC_NEUTRALIZER=NO
>>
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