what is a good source (cheap) for Premier Imaging Fine Art Hot Press papers On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:59:26 -0700, Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote: > > > Arlene, > > I think PhotoRag (including the private label versions) is the visual champ. > I have seen no other matte paper with as high a dmax and dynamic range. I, > of course, like smooth papers for a traditional "photographic" look. > > I am bothered by the PhotoRag optical brighteners, flaking, and sensitive > coating (to both physical abrasion and gas attack). I flip-flop on what > paper is best overall for these reasons. The new PermaJet papers (Alpha, > etc.) are contenders (dmax between EEM and PhotoRag, almost no flaking, and > no or little OBAs, depending on version). UltraSmooth and the related > PremierArt papers are contenders (average dmax, almost no flaking, no OBAs > but still relatively white). And, when price is weighted, Moab papers are > in contention (flaking and an average dmax being the main drawbacks I know > of). > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > _____________________ > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lovelipp [mailto:ArleneLoveL@...] > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:38 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Enhanced Matt and Ultrasmooth Fine Art > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > > > >I've been noticing that my older Enhanced Matt prints are starting > to > > >yellow in the paper base. These papers have been stored in a > > >drawer. Is this normal? > > > > EEM is a non-buffered, acidic, wood-based (with residual lignin) > paper that > > appears to deteriorate quickly in certain storage conditions. If > you can't > > re-print the images on acid-free paper, store them with buffered > interleaves > > in a dry, acid-free environment. > > > > Among other sources of problems, other papers in a drawer may be > releasing > > acids that will attack un-buffered prints. That is what appears to > have > > polluted my silver prints. You can interrupt the acidic cascade > (chain > > reaction) by putting the paper in a bag with a cap full of ammonia > for about > > 10 minutes. It'll stay yellow, and the ammonia will not buffer the > EEM, but > > it might help stop the cascading chain reaction. > > > > If the drawer is wood, it may be a source of problems. > > > > We really need a good, affordable, acid-free paper to replace EEM. > Most of > > the papers that come close don't have the dmax or are otherwise not > quite up > > to the EEM quality, however. I'm not sure I'd trust any non-cotton > paper > > with really long-term uses. > > > > >Also, does anyone know if Ultrasmooth Fine Art will become > available > > >in sizes suitable for the 2200? > > > > Have you tried the Premier Imaging Fine Art Hot Press papers? I > think they > > are close to UltraSmooth. (I believe the come from the same basic > stock, > > although there are some profile differences.) For even a more > affordable > > alternative, try the Moab Entrada papers. The Natural (no OBAs) > Entrada 300 > > seems like a good substitute for UltraSmooth. Be sure to brush or > wipe it > > first to avoid flaking. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > Paul, Do you think there is any paper as good or better than H Photo > Rag? I know it's $$$ but I haven't anything to equal it. 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Re: [Digital BW] Enhanced Matt and Ultrasmooth Fine Art
2004-07-22 by kiakki
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