Digital BW, The Print

Thank you Tyler. That was an excellent description of the difference between icc profiles 
and patches used for quad output. I'm saving all this useful information.  This makes me 
feel better about trying the UT pigments through QTR. Since you are such an expert with 
all this, if you don't mind me asking, what inkset are you using now? These carbon 
pigments seem fairly close in composition from what I've read around here and there 
certainly is a price difference, especially in the beginning.

I went to your website. Your work if very nice. Seattle is such a great town. I visited there 
and was either going to move there or here in Atlanata, but ended up here. My brother 
lives in Portland.

Best,

John





-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" <tyler@t...> wrote:
> Butting in here-
> Profiles, while an apt name, is perhaps a name that somewhat confuses
> the issue under these circumstances. The term, as generally used,
> refers to an icc profile which is part of the huge issue of color
> management. ICC profiles are files that have specific characteristics
> cross platform and cross application that have been settled on
> internationally.
> The term used in conjunction with QTR or other special drivers
> discussed here don't fall into that category so a traditional
> profiling service will not be able to help. Generally it is a
> linearization process specific to the particular software that uses
> it, in this case QTR. It would be made with that software or utilities
> that come with it, and can only be used by that software.
> You would need a measuring device to create them, however there is a
> big enough community growing that can either share profiles, or others
> can make them for you if you send them the printed chart. An early
> version that I briefly tried also had suggestions for simply doing it
> visually without an expensive device, and you may also be able to use
> a scanner.
> Tyler
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean"
> <deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> > John, thanks. I appreciate that info. One more thing.
> > 
> > What is involved with profiling quad inks in QTR for a 7000? I
> usually have my
> > profiles for color done at Profile City and I do not have McBeth or
> > any specialized sofware to make custom profiles. At any rate the
> process is different, 
> > where do I read about it? Is it  necessary to have specialized
> spectrometer equipment for 
> > that approach or is there somewhere to find generic profiles for
> such a purpose?  I guess 
> > there are a lot of "curves" for these inks out there.How complex was
> it for you to make 
> > your profiles for Cone inks and UT pigments?
> > 
> > John