Digital BW, The Print

Doug,

My UT2 information sheet states, in part:

"GLOSSY PAPERS - WITH EBONI BLACK INK 

...

Most of these papers have some reflective differentials or artifacts that
can be reduced significantly with a spray like PremierArt Image Shield or
Lyson Print Guard.  When sprayed, these papers have a surface that is
durable enough to be cleaned with a damp paper towel.

Curves are available for the following papers:

 ...

Ilford Galerie Smooth Pearl & Glossy papers:

            (Use "Photo Quality Glossy Film" media type.)"



I think dye inks do have a visual advantage on most "glossy" surfaces.
Frankly, I don't like the supper glossy finishes on the microporous papers
at all.  However, I think most find the pearl or semi-gloss surfaces quite
pleasing -- when sprayed.  The spray is critical for all the papers expect
the older Epson Glossy Photo Paper and related coatings.

The large dots you saw may indicate that either the resolution should be
kicked up to 2880 or the paper type is wrong.  Flooding the paper is a
problem with Ilford.  Be sure to use the "Photo Quality Glossy Film"
setting.  If you still notice large looking dots at 2880 at about 75%, then
your particular printer may just be putting out too much ink for the paper.

Good luck.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see:
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ 

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-----Original Message-----
From: lipshurt2002 [mailto:lipshurt@...] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 1:34 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] eboni, UT2, and semi-gloss or pearl.......What's up

so after reading all of the stuff on the roark website, I decide to spring
for a set of UT2 
inks for my epson 1280. I have been making nice prints using epson ink,
Black only, on 
every kind of paper, fine art, smooth pearl, high gloss, you name it. I
started to think that 
maybe they wont last, so I got the pigment UT2 set because
...supposedly......they are 
compatible with gloss and smooth gloss papers. Well, I have some ilford
gallerie smooth 
gloss for pigment inks, and some ilford gallerie smooth pearl for pigment
inks. What a 
disaster. The bronzing is extreme. SO extreme that anyone with any standards
whatsoever 
would just laugh. On the smooth gloss, the inks just set on the top, and can
be DUSTED of 
by the slightest wipe of a  handkerchief!......I mean totally erased. I'll
bet the wind of 
rustling papers would blow the ink off the paper. Something, I assume is
wrong here. I was 
usuing the "UT2-ilfordsmooth-eboni-carbon" curve, and following the rest of
his 
directions. Aside from the obvious problems, I also was not knocked out by
the print as far 
as smoothness and detail go. The Black only method has better transitions
from dark to 
black in the shadows. The shadow detail was lacking pretty bad, and blotchy.
If I am 
wasting my time trying to get this ink to print on a non-matte surface,
please let me 
know. I recently went through this with lyson small gamuts, and gave up on
them making 
a neutral print. Right now I'll try some more of the papers I have on
hand....thanks in 
advance, Doug M




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