Digital BW, The Print

here are some more test results in case anyone might be interested. 
Using black only, eboni inks is not usable with ilford smooth pearl or 
smooth gloss paper? However, there is essentially no bronzing. That 
tells me that the bronzing problem is in the 5 shades of grey, not the 
eboni black. The problem that eboni only has is that the ink simply 
wipes off the paper, almost like chalk. Now I did weeks of reading 
before buying into the eboni thing, and several places I read that the 
eboni ink was compatible with non-matte papers, clayton jones mentions 
it, as does paul roark. So far, I have ruled out the ilford papers, 
colorlife, and epson premium glossy. All of these are really really 
unaceptable. It is looking like I am going to dump a whole set of ink 
just to find out that the stuff simply does not work. I find it hard to 
beileve that changing a setting is going to make the ink stick to the 
paper, or fix bronzing. ....geez
On Jul 30, 2004, at 6:41 PM, Douglas Meeuwsen wrote:

> What media setting are you using with smooth pearl to get good
>  results?? I have pretty much tried allo them.......are you using 
> roarks
>  curves? Speaking of Dmax, these curves look pretty bad in the shadows,
>  even on matte paper. I just printed some greyscale test strips, and it
>  looks like the darkest block is black, then there is a drastic change
>  for the next block. If I use the no-curves-just sliders method with
>  matte paper, the greayscale strip is definitely� better. That may 
> offer
>  a clue to what is going on with my system. I am using a brand new 
> 1280,
>  mac osx panther, the newest driver from EPSON, working space =
>  adobe1998, print space =same as source. I am using the curves from the
>  website via the "image/adjustment/curves/load method.......is that
>  correct?....thanks again and again, DM
>  On Jul 30, 2004, at 6:13 PM, Douglas Meeuwsen wrote:
>
>  > Really???? I just tried classic pearl, and there is no bronzing at 
> all.
>  > None in any lighting. However....The ink just sits on the top and 
> can
>  > be smeared off in a gooey mess. I am heartened by your results with
>  > smooth pearl though. Now, in the direct sun it's not too bad (smooth
>  > pearl), but in window light or incandecent, it's really bad, 
> especially
>  > in the upper midtones. Also, the shadows are a totally diferent 
> grain
>  > pattern with the neutral curve than the carbon curve. Grainy 
> shadows,
>  > nice highlights. Weird. The carbon has smooth blotchy shadows, with 
> no
>  > grain at all......I'll keep reading and double checking. thanks, 
> Doug M
>  > On Jul 30, 2004, at 6:02 PM, wolarsky wrote:
>  >
>  >> I'm printing very successfully with a 1280 using UT2-Eboni and
>  >>� Galerie Smooth Pearl. In fact, the increased dMax makes the Photo 
> Rag
>  >>� prints seem a bit dull. I suspect that something is not correct in
>  >>� your settings because this combination does work.
>  >>
>  >>� By mistake, I tried printing on Classic Pearl and landed up with 
> the
>  >>� results you described, although you seem to have the right paper.
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