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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Ideal Windows computer spec

2004-08-17 by Roger L Sopher

Hi Chris,

I have two Macs, one is an old beige g3 with a g4 processor transplant and
768 mb dram. On a typical grey scale 8X10 it takes a couple of minutes
before it starts to print. I also have a dual processor G4 (867mhz) with 2
gigs of dram and it prints in about 10 seconds, if not a bit less The beige
mac is running Jaguar and the dual is running Panther.

Roger

Roger L Sopher
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: chris [mailto:cjones@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:01 AM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Ideal Windows computer spec


  Joe-



  I must seem like a jerk about this, but to reiterate, after sending a
print
  command, do you regain quick access to photoshop? Just to be clear, my
  computer is immediately available for other, non-Photoshop tasks, but not
  PS.



  If anyone else is out there on a Mac, please let me know what your
  experience is: how long does your  OS 10.3X Mac take to spool a file after
  hitting the print command?

  Thanks,

  Chris



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  From: Joe Dempsey [mailto:jdempsey@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:43 AM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Ideal Windows computer spec



  Yes.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: chris [mailto:cjones@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:40 AM
    To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Ideal Windows computer spec


    Joe-

    After giving a print command, do you immediately regain use of
photoshop?
    This is not a facetious question---I am really curious to find out what
is
    going on. I am beginning to think that I have a turkey machine here.

    --Chris



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    From: Joe Dempsey [mailto:jdempsey@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 8:44 AM
    To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Ideal Windows computer spec



    There is a little utility that come with the ASUS board that  you can
pop
    up. I've not had any print lag problems even on the slower machine ...
so
  I
    can't accurately comment on that
      -----Original Message-----
      From: chris [mailto:cjones@...]
      Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 8:30 AM
      To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Ideal Windows computer spec


      Joe-



      Given that an image file resides entirely in Ram, what determines the
    length
      of time required to send it to the printer-is it processor, or disk
  speed,
      or what? When I hit the print button, I seem to sit and wait a long
time
    for
      the image to spool out before I have PS back.



      How do you measure processor temp?



      C.



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      From: Joe Dempsey [mailto:jdempsey@...]
      Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 7:18 AM
      To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Ideal Windows computer spec



      Bob
      I considered the raid setup, but went with the scuzzys because they
were
      cheap and fast and I could have one dedicated 15,000 rpm drive for a
PS
    and
      Illustrator scratch disk. Also Henry, my hardware genius friend who
  built
      the machine is a scuzzy afficianado so I gotta go with his opinion.
This
    box
      will take five drives. This continues to be an interesting thread.
This
    box,
      by the way has an intake venturi directed at the processor and it is
    running
      from 98 degrees f to about 125-120 when I really sock some bad PS
  filters
    to
      it. This thread continues to be interesting and educational, we should
    send
      our friend in Israel a thank you note for kicking it off. And yes, I
  don't
      want to send my wife into coronary occlusion with the price. I have a
      downtown office and an office at home and spend 90% of my work time at
    home
      listening to WCPE on the internet while I work. The board has a
helluva
      sound card and with all the resources, the machine still has with a
  little
      Bach and Vivaldi running in the background.  We built the machine in
our
      dining room and I forbade anyone but Henry and myself to lay hands on
      anything in the room. I keep promising to clean it up. It still looks
      something like Berlin in late 1945
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Bob Frost [mailto:bob@...]
        Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 6:54 AM
        To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Ideal Windows computer spec


        Joe,

        Not sure about the need for SCSI these days. A pair of 10,000 rpm WD
      Raptors
        (35 GB) running in a Raid0 config, which is standard on most
high-end
        motherboards these days, are quite nippy.

        I have my system on this Raid0 array, and another pair of 250GB WD
    drives
        for data and backups. Each of these has a small 10GB partition onto
    which
      I
        put the windows pagefile on one and the PS scratch disk on the
other.
  At
        least I did; I now have the scratch file in a separate partition on
  the
        Raid0 system drive. As long as the pagefile is on another drive,
this
  is
        faster, I think. I put the printer's spoolfiles on the unused 10GB
      partition
        now.

        Lots of cases will take four hard drives; you just need to make sure
  you
        have adequate cooling. Coolermaster cases have two fans blowing
  directly
        over the drives.

        I gave up adding up the cost of my latest PC; it was frightening my
    wife!

        Bob Frost.

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Joe Dempsey" <jdempsey@...>

        I haven't put the final pencil to it yet. My guess is over $2500 and
    under
        $3000. If you were to get a name machine with all those goodies it
  would
      be
        substantially higher. My strategy now is to stick with this box and
    every
        two to three years upgrade guts as needed (or desired) to take
  advantage
      of
        new technology advances which might be beneficial.



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