on 10/26/01 4:08 PM, Tyler Boley wrote: >> I wasn't crazy about the samples they provided me. The product certainly >> showed potential, like deep blacks and a uniform neutral color, but the >> prints on glossy paper showed a lot of microbanding, and some bronzing of >> the deepest blacks, > workflow issues, you know as well as I do there is no reason to judge an > inkset by those particular issues. >> and the print on the water color paper was just not my >> cup of tea at all (read washed-out). > The poster expressed no interest in that kind of paper, rather luster, > semi-gloss or glossy. > In fact, he seemed to have a specific niche, there is nothing else worth > pursuing as I would never recommend Lysonic after > going through many hundreds of dollars worth of it. > Good grief, what did I do this time? > Tyler Tyler I hope I didn't come across as challenging to your sentiment or advice. I tried to be fair to the product and mention what I did see as it's upside. I was just speaking broadly to my experience with the product as it was presented to me, and to your dismay as to why a good product gets such little airplay. Unfortunately, I think it is because the producers/marketers don't put out compelling information and samples. The sentiment I was trying to express here is the same on I expressed on the Ink Options list regarding Indelible Inks: that market acceptance will in large degree be predicated upon savvy marketing, regardless of how phenomenal the product may be. Frankly, I think it's becoming more and more apparent that the inks that will do well will be those that come with a packaged "workflow", be that profiles, curves, or drivers (i.e., Piezo and MIS). Surely others can do well (Generations) but I believe not nearly as well as they would do with a good sales and support structure. I'm talking about quality for the masses, which so far, nobody is better at than Epson, in spite of all their foibles. But that's not to say other companies can't find a way to emulate Epson's convenience factor. If it's true that Epson sells it's hardware cheap and makes it's money on consumables than there should surely be incentive for upstarts to attempt to steal some of that more lucrative business. Anyway, when the intrepid among us do put the work into making good use of these inks I certainly hope they'll share their results. I'd like to see Spectratones used more, as they probably are the best product for certain applications, particularly those applications you rightly addressed. Todd
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: BW printing problems/ Anyone overcome these?
2001-10-26 by Todd Flashner
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