--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner <tflash@e...> wrote:
> I hope I didn't come across as challenging to your sentiment or advice. I
> tried to be fair to the product and mention what I did see as it's upside.
Yes, you did. It was just curious to me why, when I mention the only viable product available as a solution to the posted
"problems", it seemed to be challenged. I'm hoping the list remains as open as Martin intended. Since most of us seem
backed into our corners pretty tightly, I'm not too interested in duking it out with regular members anymore. But a new
member with a new problem needs info.
>
> I was just speaking broadly to my experience with the product as it was
> presented to me, and to your dismay as to why a good product gets such
> little airplay. Unfortunately, I think it is because the producers/marketers
> don't put out compelling information and samples.
MIS puts out nothing. Allen will gladly send samples to anyone and based on my experience (as a beta tester) would
probably personally hold your hand while you get going.
>
> The sentiment I was trying to express here is the same on I expressed on the
> Ink Options list regarding Indelible Inks: that market acceptance will in
> large degree be predicated upon savvy marketing, regardless of how
> phenomenal the product may be.
I'm too cynical Todd, I suspect John and Allen are simply too nice, lacking the prerequisite killer instinct. Hence, my respect.
> Frankly, I think it's becoming more and more
> apparent that the inks that will do well will be those that come with a
> packaged "workflow", be that profiles, curves, or drivers (i.e., Piezo and
> MIS).
MIS doesn't and never did have a clue about how to get their ink on paper in any useful fashion. They are completely
dependent on the good will of users that manage to come up with a workflow. Immediately someone will take that as a
judgment, it's not. It's a fact, without goodness or badness.
The Spectratones do have suggested workflows on their site, I can't vouch for them, again, I'm sure excellent support could
be anticipated.
MIS has the advantage of market longevity and price, Cone the attributes you mention.
> Anyway, when the intrepid among us do put the work into making good use of
> these inks I certainly hope they'll share their results. I'd like to see
> Spectratones used more, as they probably are the best product for certain
> applications, particularly those applications you rightly addressed.
>
I suspect they simply do not fall within the interest of most of this list's current members, despite the list description. They
need to find the right user group. I know of one person who considered them a solution for his needs who just doesn't hang
out here, and I haven't seen Allen post in months, too bad. But I guarantee, I'll mention them every chance I get. Actually
the Lysonics would look good for the poster, and are used to good ends by some people who are able to strictly control the
display lighting. But I don't think many of us are able to do that.
Tyler