Carl, I haven't played with that particular inkset enough to know. I was mostly involved in beta testing previous candidates. But from what I've seen in experiments conducted by others, if the grayscale is largely made up of the small gamuts with some quads added, spectral graphs begin to flatten out quite a bit - meaning they don't show the peaks often associated with metameric grays. And I would think that a good sepia should be possible - just haven't done it myself. Antonis --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield <scho@m...> wrote: > Antonis, > > Thanks for the info on the inks. Using toners to generate warm/cool > profiles shouldn't be too difficult, but trying to eliminate metamerism > with the small gamut toners sounds like it might be more challenging. > Have you been able to generate neutral prints without metamerism? > Also, can you produce a good sepia with this inkset or would it be > necessary to substitute the warm quads (plus some small gamut M and Y) > for this? > > Carl > > On Saturday, August 28, 2004, at 01:10 PM, Antonis wrote: > > > Carl, > > > > I don't know officially what's in the kit, but it should be neutral > > quads > > plus small gamuts. Not sure if it includes the dilute small gamuts or > > the full strength. It's the only way to deal with the metamerism of the > > quads, and not have bright colors to profile or show dots. Should > > work fine on newer machines as far as highlight dots go, but > > with 7000 - type heads may not be as smooth depending on profiling. > > Of course, they are marketing the kit to 7-ink printers, so that's not > > an issue. > > > > The official release came out 8/19/04. You can read it at dp&i: > > http://www.dpandi.com/digitalnews/digitalnews.html > > (scroll down) > > > > I expect that they will ship the kit with profiles for the Darkroom > > Glossy > > which should make life easier for anyone new to profiling - especially > > with three toners. > > > > > > Antonis > > > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield > > <scho@m...> wrote: > >> Looks like this has been or will shortly be released for the 2200/7600 > >> printers. There is a link on the following web site to a pdf > >> description of the system (software, inks, papers). They don't say > >> specifically what the 7 inks are, but it appears as though they might > >> be the quad blacks (neutral or warm?) plus C, M , and Y inks for > >> toning. Perhaps Antonis can elaborate on the composition of this > >> inkset. > >> http://www.adventurecamphoto.com/lyson.htm > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > > resources as they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > > this same page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > > keep them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > > the membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > > removed from the membership. > > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > > Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the > > Files section: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" > > AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >
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[Digital BW] Re: Lyson Daylight Digital Darkroom
2004-08-28 by Antonis
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