Jake, >Did MIS change the design on their carts? Frankly, they are at the mercy of their suppliers. A large part of MIS's job is to search the world for the best supplies, including the carts. From what I can tell these latest, poppet-valve, easy refill types are brand new. >...If I can fill my carts this same way maybe this >is my problem with the foam buildup. I'm hopeful that these new carts will not have the foam problem. I've refilled a number of the new C86 carts and, so far, no problems. Paul www.PaulRoark.com _________________ -----Original Message----- From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...] Richard, >Could you describe what makes certain cartridges "refill-friendly?" >Is this related to "poppets" you mentioned in another post? >(And what are they?) Take a look at http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/c82refill.html and http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/c84refill.html. (Where the C86 picture says to drill a hole, they are now pre-drilled, and there are little rubber "corks" that plug the hole until re-fill time.) To fill or re-fill these carts, all one does is pull the cork, squirt 13 cc of ink into the sponge-free reservoir, stick the cork back in, and re-set the chip. This is really easy and cheap. So far it is working extremely well with the C86 I'm using. I don't know how long the carts will last, but the system is essentially a CFS without the tubes. The carts might last a year or more. (The latest version of Re-setter SK168 -- that turns from red to green -- is the recommended resetter. It has a plastic guide that needs slight modification at least for the C86 carts -- 1 mm cardboard on the base to raise the cart, 5 mm sawed off the side of the guide to allow for a bulge the new carts have. I've sent my recommendations to MIS. With those modifications, it has successfully reset 100% of the time with the C86.) The poppet valve is similar to what Epson has had for some time, but the third party carts have lacked the better outlet valve. It's a spring valve as opposed to the older simple rubber gasket. It allows me to, for example, switch between Eboni matte K and PK at will, with perfect nozzle checks right off the bat. Interchanging carts now becomes practical, it appears. I just tape the outlet of the cart that has been removed. So, these 2 advances, which affect the C86 carts (C84 included) and 2200 carts (C82 included), make life for these desktop units much easier and cheaper. I never liked the old re-filling, and I do not recommend bottom filling because it puts any junk in the ink on the wrong side of the sponge/filter. With these new carts the built-in filters will always be able to do their job, which might allow our desktop units to live longer. Paul www.PaulRoark.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: [Digital BW] refill-friendly carts?
2004-11-16 by Paul Roark
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