Digital BW, The Print

> Thanks for the appreciation!..=*^)
>
> But, YOU are not the issue here - and neither am I - the issue here are
> aspiring, newly started photogs who don't have a clue about what's out
> there - and where to get that info - sure you can join ASMP or any
> other pro organization and pay $300/year - and basically learn the same
> stuff - for 12 times the price.
>
> Perhaps you are such a successful photog and been in the business so
> long that you cannot remember what it was like starting out - me - I
> remember very well - and I know what I learned from EP and that has
> served me well. And I think that if it served me well it'll probably do
> the same for others as well

Yes, all very well, but the way EP is now, newbies asking newbie questions
are generally either put down, or going by the off-list questions I get sent
to me, their posts are rejected by the moderators (and at most told to
search the archives, which, of course, on Yahoo is/was always pretty
pointless). - and the list/moderators were usually controlled with something
of an iron grip

Which is what I meant by the fact that most of what's really useful for
aspiring, newly started photographers could be put together in a series of
simple FAQ's.

Also, from what I can now tell (and from talking to a couple of people who
have tried to sign up), the new, improved version of EP requires a higher
standard of achievement for membership and seems to cut out a number of
potential aspiring, newly starting photogs type members. They seem to take
students/assistants, but just starting out photographers who may not be
supporting themselves from their photography full-time yet, or those with
very limited track records seem not quite so welcome apparently - which as I
understand was part of the impetus behind MEDIAPHOTO

tim