Digital BW, The Print

All sounds very interesting, I look forward to hearing how it goes 
for you.Perhaps when there are 8 or 10 of us trying this out, we 
could do a glop print exchange to get a direct comparison.

Steve Karafyllakis

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale 
<stevekale@b...> wrote:
> OK have fun.  
> 
> I have "MIS UC with GLOP" QTR curves good to go and will get my 
GLOP next
> week.  I have also made an "overcoat" curve for colour work (but 
that is not
> for this list) and a curve to flush the GLOP jet.
> 
> Carl has also been kind enough to share with me his UT2/FSN-GLOP 
curves.  I
> have ordered a similar ink set and so will be shifting my B&W 
workflow to a
> dedicated setup (which can be easily swapped back for colour).  
Carl's QTR
> curves are "K-less" though and so he is running GLOP in the K 
position.  I
> will likely also make some using MIS PK and running the GLOP in 
the sepia
> toner slot for neutral and warm (I will of course have to go K-
less for
> sepia).  I will post my results when I get the chance.
> 
> (As for what GLOP was designed, for yes I am aware of that.  As 
soon as the
> R800 was announced many of us anticipated using QTR to apply it.  
MIS has
> finally made a replica of the Epson Gloss Optimiser intended for 
use with
> their MIS replica ultrachromes and the improved refillable carts 
make toying
> with it a practicality.  Pity it doesn't meet their standards but 
at least
> they will likely be working hard on a replacement.  For now we get 
to play
> around with the stuff that didn't pass muster.)
> 
> 
> 
> > From: Steven Karafyllakis <steve@s...>
> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:33:32 -0000
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: More on Glop overcoating
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale
> > <stevekale@b...> wrote:
> >> Well if you have refillable cartridges and a QTR curve to flush
> > the affected
> >> slot at will you can simply pop the GLOP in when needed ie when
> > you print
> >> B&W.  OK you will consume some extra glop and ink in the swapped
> > slot but it
> >> gets you your GLOP workflow in large format today.  Are there 
not
> > refillable
> >> cartridges for the 7600 - perhaps this is what I am missing?
> > Seems to me
> >> you are testing GLOP with different ink sets than you intend it 
to
> >> ultimately work with.
> > 
> > No, I'm testing the glop with the MIS UC inks, with the possible
> > exception of the LK which may wind up being Epson if it bronzes 
less
> > and coats better. That is what the glop was designed for, and co-
> > incidentally most of the UT B&W inks are of the same family, so
> > it'll work for those if it works for the color UC inks.There are
> > (and I have them) refillable MIS carts, and chip resetters; what 
you
> > are perhaps not familiar with is the length of the inklines in a 
7x
> > medium format printer. Each line and damper holds as much ink as 
an
> > entire 2200 cart, so coming up with a cost effective way to flush
> > and change one ink at a time is worth the effort. Daniel Staver 
has
> > offered to help with this, he's on the PC platform, so I'm 
covered
> > on that point, thanks.