Digital BW, The Print

I should be receiving some glop and virgin empties within the next 
few days. I'm going to try the glop out first on the Epson UC color 
inkset coating color prints (then perhaps BW, if all goes well). I'm 
hoping that the problems Steven Karafyllakis has described are 
minimal with color work. I'll be happy if I can get consistent 
results -- i.e., removal of bronzing -- with one good paper. So far 
Epson Premium semi-gloss seems like the paper that's getting the best 
results. I'll try to let the list know how things work out.

Chris Hargens

  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale 
<stevekale@b...> wrote:
> OK have fun.  
> 
> I have "MIS UC with GLOP" QTR curves good to go and will get my 
GLOP next
> week.  I have also made an "overcoat" curve for colour work (but 
that is not
> for this list) and a curve to flush the GLOP jet.
> 
> Carl has also been kind enough to share with me his UT2/FSN-GLOP 
curves.  I
> have ordered a similar ink set and so will be shifting my B&W 
workflow to a
> dedicated setup (which can be easily swapped back for colour).  
Carl's QTR
> curves are "K-less" though and so he is running GLOP in the K 
position.  I
> will likely also make some using MIS PK and running the GLOP in the 
sepia
> toner slot for neutral and warm (I will of course have to go K-less 
for
> sepia).  I will post my results when I get the chance.
> 
> (As for what GLOP was designed, for yes I am aware of that.  As 
soon as the
> R800 was announced many of us anticipated using QTR to apply it.  
MIS has
> finally made a replica of the Epson Gloss Optimiser intended for 
use with
> their MIS replica ultrachromes and the improved refillable carts 
make toying
> with it a practicality.  Pity it doesn't meet their standards but 
at least
> they will likely be working hard on a replacement.  For now we get 
to play
> around with the stuff that didn't pass muster.)
> 
> 
> 
> > From: Steven Karafyllakis <steve@s...>
> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:33:32 -0000
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: More on Glop overcoating
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale
> > <stevekale@b...> wrote:
> >> Well if you have refillable cartridges and a QTR curve to flush
> > the affected
> >> slot at will you can simply pop the GLOP in when needed ie when
> > you print
> >> B&W.  OK you will consume some extra glop and ink in the swapped
> > slot but it
> >> gets you your GLOP workflow in large format today.  Are there not
> > refillable
> >> cartridges for the 7600 - perhaps this is what I am missing?
> > Seems to me
> >> you are testing GLOP with different ink sets than you intend it 
to
> >> ultimately work with.
> > 
> > No, I'm testing the glop with the MIS UC inks, with the possible
> > exception of the LK which may wind up being Epson if it bronzes 
less
> > and coats better. That is what the glop was designed for, and co-
> > incidentally most of the UT B&W inks are of the same family, so
> > it'll work for those if it works for the color UC inks.There are
> > (and I have them) refillable MIS carts, and chip resetters; what 
you
> > are perhaps not familiar with is the length of the inklines in a 
7x
> > medium format printer. Each line and damper holds as much ink as 
an
> > entire 2200 cart, so coming up with a cost effective way to flush
> > and change one ink at a time is worth the effort. Daniel Staver 
has
> > offered to help with this, he's on the PC platform, so I'm covered
> > on that point, thanks.