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Re: [Digital BW] Copy of Photoshop 7 for Sale?

2004-12-28 by John Houghton

The support of 16-bit mode in Elements 3 is severely limited.  You 
cannot have multiple 16-bit layers of any type.  Nor can you convert 
an 8-bit image to 16-bits.  You cannot use the selection brush either 
(a sort of quick mask mode substitute).  Pathetic, really.  The RAW 
converter is also limited in that it does not have the very useful 
options to correct chromatic aberration and vignetting.  Good for 
ordinary photographers?  I think not.

John

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Howard Averbach 
<haverbach@y...> wrote:
> Bob, please check information on PS Elements 3 as it
> applies to 16-bit editing.
> 
> As a long time user of Photoshop (the full version), I
> believe the BEST and MOST IMPORTANT improvement of
> Photoshop CS over earlier versions is the availability
> of full 16-bit editing of Levels, Curves,
> Hue/Saturation, Color Balance, etc. adjustment layers.
>  As a photo restorer, don't I wish all the former
> images I've restored through Photoshop 5, 6 and 7 were
> still in 16-bit mode!
> 
> I've never used PS Elements; however, I read that it
> is limited to 8-bit editing of adjustment layers.  If
> so, even for new users I would recommend the full
> version of Photoshop so that all the time-consuming
> work done on an image can stay in 16-bit mode for
> later use.
> 
> If Photoshop Elements did, in fact, incorporate
> support for 16-bit adjustment layers, then missing
> only "Curves" and a few other functions sometimes
> helpful to photographers and photo restorers may be
> acceptable.
> 
> Howard
> 
> 
> --- Bob Frost <bob@f...> wrote:
> 
> > Paul & Steve,
> > 
> > Photoshop Elements 3 is now available, with a lot
> > more stuff from CS 
> > incorporated into it. For example it now has Camera
> > Raw conversions, the 
> > Highlight/Shadow sliders, Healing brush, 16bit on
> > most items, etc. You can 
> > upgrade from 2, so if you get a freebie copy of 2,
> > it will just cost you the 
> > upgrade price. Well worth it, as it has most of what
> > normal photographers 
> > want. No CMYK, so not suitable for pro press work.
> > 
> > Bob Frost.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > While Photoshop is the king of image editors, other
> > alternatives might be
> > Photoshop Elements or Picture Windows.  I noticed
> > Elements 2 ships with
> > 1280s.  So, I suspect a number of people on the list
> > have them sitting
> > around un-opened.  What it lacks is curves, but it
> > does take layers.
> > Picture Windows has curves but lacks layers.  It's a
> > $50 download from
> > Digital Light and Color for the 8 bit version.\
> > 
> > I thought PS 7 was a dog.  I use CS or PS 6. 
> > However, all of these are
> > upgrades and won't load without a pre-existing full
> > PS.  Between that and
> > licensing problems, it may be hard to find a full
> > PS7 at a great price.
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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