Digital BW, The Print

I realize that I forgot to mention that the good results I was getting with
intenegs printed on a 2200 was for the silver/gelatin process. I know Ken
Burkholder uses the process for platinum prints.

Steve Bye
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Carney" <kcarney1@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] New digital inerneg material



Steve, is your hand-coated emulsion platinum or palladium or a combination?
As you know these require a neg with a DR greater than a neg for silver
paper.  If this film will work for pt/pd or Ziatype that is good news
indeed.  Also, are you using dye or pigment inks?

Regards,

  --Ken Carney
    www.kencarney.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Karafyllakis [mailto:steve@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 7:11 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] New digital inerneg material
>
>
>
> Anyone out there still working on digital internegatives? A
> few weeks back I got a few sheets of a film called Super
> Clear/IJ from Michael Pach and Adveturecam Photo. I've tried
> it a couple times at this point, and I'm pleased enough with
> it to ressurect that particular project. I had been trying
> Pictorico products, but remained unsatisfied: I hate printing
> through the almost opaque white plastic paper, and the OTC
> showed printer artifacts: the printer dots where very clearly
> delineated, it showed microbanding when normal paper wouldn't
> and the film itself was milky, lowering the effective
> contrast, and has a lot of microscopic flaws. Also, and
> probably most important, the Pictorico won't build much
> density or color saturation. It seemed no matter how I went
> about it, I could get enough density, spectral or otherwise
> to get good contrast. Not a problem if you're using variable
> contrast paper, but I need the internegs for printing the
> hand coated emulsion, which is a grade two at best.
>
> OTOH the Super Clear is, as its name implies, much more
> clear, at least in part because it is thinner, so carefull
> handling is a must.
> On the plus side, it is capable of producing much better
> color saturation, especially in the yellow range where the
> Pictorico was very weak. That makes it easy to produce an
> orange negative of enough spectral density to make a snappy
> print on VC fiber paper at a grade 2-2.5
>
> Also, it shows printer dots less, and doesn't seem prone to
> showing microbanding either. I think this is becuase there is
> a bit more dot gain, which softens the edges of the printer
> dots a bit. Obviously this also means slightly lower max
> sharpness is possible, but the difference is not visible to
> the naked eye, and you have to look carefully even with a
> lupe to pick it up. The lower grittiness is definitely
> visible to the naked eye, and quite pleasing.
>
> There is one catch: the material is available in 100 sheet
> boxes, and while the price per sheet is much lower than
> Pictorico, that's still a good chunk of change. Michael has
> agreed to split the packages into 50s that's a lot easier to
> handle, and puts the cash outlay close to what you'spend
> getting into Pictorico.
>
> Hope this is of some use & interest
>
> Steve Karafyllakis




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