Bob, The MIS glop and R800 clones -- all the UT family or colors, in fact -- can not match the R800 coated pigments in the high gloss department. So, that is not the goal. Frankly, I'm not a fan of high gloss, at least for B&W, though I understand the snap it can give an image. So, for the inks I work with, the goal is to deal with bronzing and differential gloss. At this point HighGloss is not within the UT, uncoated pigs' capabilities without sprays (or maybe even with sprays). Paul www.PaulRoark.com -----Original Message----- From: Bob Frost [mailto:bob@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:01 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] What is Glop? Paul, The point about the HighGloss Ultrachromes of the R800 is that the inks are HighGloss (on the right paper eg Premium Glossy) without the Gloss Optimizer. They don't suffer from bronzing like the normal Ultrachromes of the 2200/4000 etc. The Gloss Optimizer in the R800 only fills in the white and near-white areas of the print which are less glossy than the HighGloss Ultrachrome printed areas. The Gloss Optimiser in the R800 DOES NOT make the Ultrachrome inks glossy by being sprayed over the whole print, as many seem to think. The little Epson Picturemate has the same HighGloss Ultrachrome inks but no Gloss Optimizer. You can see white areas are less glossy than the inked areas with that printer. You can also turn off the Gloss Optimizer in the R800 and the prints are still glossy (they just have less glossy white areas like the Picturemate). Spraying GO over entire prints printed with normal Ultrachromes or other inks may improve them, but it is not what the R800 does. Bob Frost. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> "Glop" = Gloss Optimizer. MIS sells a version of it. It is experimental at this point. What we are most interested in is integrating it into the inkset like with the R800 in order to eliminate gloss differentials and bronzing. Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: [Digital BW] What is Glop?
2005-01-12 by Paul Roark
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