Pieris, >I thought the Dmax fade could be stopped with spray? Yes, PremierArt spray will kick the dmax back up. Losing gloss is a major part of the problem -- and also, I believe, why the PK is not doing better. What is happening is not fading as we usually use that term, it's gloss loss. Since many will not spray prints, I need to compromise the total carbon on the paper (ink load) with the realities of gloss loss on the papers that are most important to us. I think I can do this, and I doubt MIS's PK was designed from this perspective (by MIS's supplier & its chemist). Paul www.PaulRoark.com --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > Pieris, > > I should have been more clear. The 2.4 initial dmax on the Costco paper was > with Eboni installed and the curve that cuts out the Eboni and generates the > black with the dark grays. By the way, all these huge dmax numbers come > down as the print ages a few days. > > I don't think the current PK is needed for very much. In my 7500, with IJC > I'm able to generate a better dmax with FSN-C than with PK on Premium > Semimatte -- which raises some very interesting issues. As you might guess, > I'm about to explore making a new and better PK. It seems I already have, > but by accident. So, the question is whether I can do even better if I try > -- maybe not. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pieris Berreitter [mailto:pieris@y...] > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:33 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Kirkland & UT2 (was Lot #?) > > > > w/Photo Black, I presume? > > Can't wait to try this... the ink is in the mail. > > -Pieris > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > I just printed the Costco paper on a 1280 with the Ilford Galerie > neutral > > curve. As with the Ilford paper (and this Costco paper probably is > made by > > the Swiss Ilford group), use media type "Photo Quality Glossy Film." > The > > initial dmax came in at 2.4. 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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Kirkland & UT2 (was Lot #?)
2005-01-12 by Paul Roark
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