Kirkland Lot #?
2005-01-11 by scott_now_coming
I just picked up 5 boxes of Swiss made Kirkland. A number stamped on the back of the box, above the UPC, is: 172026 Just wondering what other people might have. Scott
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Kirkland Lot #?
RE: [Digital BW] Kirkland Lot #?
2005-01-11 by Paul Roark
My rather early box of the new Swiss formula has # 169136 on the back. An earlier, "Made in Japan" box I received via mail order is # 002504. These are "dot matrix" type numbers. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
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-----Original Message----- From: scott_now_coming [mailto:scott_now_coming@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:51 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Kirkland Lot #? I just picked up 5 boxes of Swiss made Kirkland. A number stamped on the back of the box, above the UPC, is: 172026 Just wondering what other people might have. Scott Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Digital BW] Kirkland Lot #?
2005-01-11 by scott_now_coming
"These are "dot matrix" type numbers." Yes, correct. Thank you. On another note, while at Costco, I saw a shelf tag for Kirkland Scrapbook Paper 12x12. Do you know anything about that? I didn't see any, just the pricing tag on the shelf. Scott --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > My rather early box of the new Swiss formula has # 169136 on the back. An > earlier, "Made in Japan" box I received via mail order is # 002504. These > are "dot matrix" type numbers. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: scott_now_coming [mailto:scott_now_coming@y...] > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:51 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Kirkland Lot #? > > > > I just picked up 5 boxes of Swiss made Kirkland. > > A number stamped on the back of the box, above the UPC, is: 172026 > > > Just wondering what other people might have. > > > Scott > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY > THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER
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> MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Digital BW] Kirkland Lot #?
2005-01-11 by mehrdad
paul can this paper be used with the ut2 ink set on the 1280, what curve to apply? thanks On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:03:34 -0800, Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote: > > My rather early box of the new Swiss formula has # 169136 on the back. An > earlier, "Made in Japan" box I received via mail order is # 002504. These > are "dot matrix" type numbers. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: scott_now_coming [mailto:scott_now_coming@...] > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:51 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Kirkland Lot #? > > I just picked up 5 boxes of Swiss made Kirkland. > > A number stamped on the back of the box, above the UPC, is: 172026 > > Just wondering what other people might have. > > Scott > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY > THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > -- ------------------------------------- regards, mehrdad
RE: [Digital BW] Kirkland & UT2 (was Lot #?)
2005-01-12 by Paul Roark
I just printed the Costco paper on a 1280 with the Ilford Galerie neutral curve. As with the Ilford paper (and this Costco paper probably is made by the Swiss Ilford group), use media type "Photo Quality Glossy Film." The initial dmax came in at 2.4. That's about as good as it gets. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
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-----Original Message----- From: mehrdad [mailto:msadat@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 3:06 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Kirkland Lot #? paul can this paper be used with the ut2 ink set on the 1280, what curve to apply? thanks On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:03:34 -0800, Paul Roark <paul.roark@verizon.net> wrote: > > My rather early box of the new Swiss formula has # 169136 on the back. An > earlier, "Made in Japan" box I received via mail order is # 002504. These > are "dot matrix" type numbers. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: scott_now_coming [mailto:scott_now_coming@...] > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:51 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Kirkland Lot #? > > I just picked up 5 boxes of Swiss made Kirkland. > > A number stamped on the back of the box, above the UPC, is: 172026 > > Just wondering what other people might have. > > Scott > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY > THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > -- ------------------------------------- regards, mehrdad Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: Kirkland & UT2 (was Lot #?)
2005-01-12 by Pieris Berreitter
w/Photo Black, I presume? Can't wait to try this... the ink is in the mail. -Pieris --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > I just printed the Costco paper on a 1280 with the Ilford Galerie neutral > curve. As with the Ilford paper (and this Costco paper probably is made by > the Swiss Ilford group), use media type "Photo Quality Glossy Film." The
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> initial dmax came in at 2.4. That's about as good as it gets. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > >
RE: [Digital BW] Re: Kirkland & UT2 (was Lot #?)
2005-01-12 by Paul Roark
Pieris, I should have been more clear. The 2.4 initial dmax on the Costco paper was with Eboni installed and the curve that cuts out the Eboni and generates the black with the dark grays. By the way, all these huge dmax numbers come down as the print ages a few days. I don't think the current PK is needed for very much. In my 7500, with IJC I'm able to generate a better dmax with FSN-C than with PK on Premium Semimatte -- which raises some very interesting issues. As you might guess, I'm about to explore making a new and better PK. It seems I already have, but by accident. So, the question is whether I can do even better if I try -- maybe not. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
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-----Original Message----- From: Pieris Berreitter [mailto:pieris@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:33 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Kirkland & UT2 (was Lot #?) w/Photo Black, I presume? Can't wait to try this... the ink is in the mail. -Pieris --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > I just printed the Costco paper on a 1280 with the Ilford Galerie neutral > curve. As with the Ilford paper (and this Costco paper probably is made by > the Swiss Ilford group), use media type "Photo Quality Glossy Film." The > initial dmax came in at 2.4. That's about as good as it gets. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Kirkland & UT2 (was Lot #?)
2005-01-12 by mehrdad
paul what curve do i need to use on the epson 1280 with ut2 eboni ink with the costco paper On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:59:07 -0800, Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote: > > Pieris, > > I should have been more clear. The 2.4 initial dmax on the Costco paper was > with Eboni installed and the curve that cuts out the Eboni and generates the > black with the dark grays. By the way, all these huge dmax numbers come > down as the print ages a few days. > > I don't think the current PK is needed for very much. In my 7500, with IJC > I'm able to generate a better dmax with FSN-C than with PK on Premium > Semimatte -- which raises some very interesting issues. As you might guess, > I'm about to explore making a new and better PK. It seems I already have, > but by accident. So, the question is whether I can do even better if I try > -- maybe not. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pieris Berreitter [mailto:pieris@...] > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:33 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Kirkland & UT2 (was Lot #?) > > w/Photo Black, I presume? > > Can't wait to try this... the ink is in the mail. > > -Pieris > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > I just printed the Costco paper on a 1280 with the Ilford Galerie > neutral > > curve. As with the Ilford paper (and this Costco paper probably is > made by > > the Swiss Ilford group), use media type "Photo Quality Glossy Film." > The > > initial dmax came in at 2.4. That's about as good as it gets. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY > THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > -- ------------------------------------- regards, mehrdad
RE: [Digital BW] Re: Kirkland & UT2 (was Lot #?)
2005-01-12 by Paul Roark
>paul what curve do i need to use on the epson 1280 with ut2 eboni ink >with the costco paper The curves are the "UT2-IlfordSmooth-Eboni-..." There are neutral, cool, carbon and sepia versions. There are also curves for when PK is installed. Use Media Type "Photo Quality Glossy Film." Paul www.PaulRoark.com On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:59:07 -0800, Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote: > > Pieris, > > I should have been more clear. The 2.4 initial dmax on the Costco paper was > with Eboni installed and the curve that cuts out the Eboni and generates the > black with the dark grays. By the way, all these huge dmax numbers come > down as the print ages a few days. > > I don't think the current PK is needed for very much. In my 7500, with IJC > I'm able to generate a better dmax with FSN-C than with PK on Premium > Semimatte -- which raises some very interesting issues. As you might guess, > I'm about to explore making a new and better PK. It seems I already have, > but by accident. So, the question is whether I can do even better if I try > -- maybe not. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pieris Berreitter [mailto:pieris@...] > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:33 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Kirkland & UT2 (was Lot #?) > > w/Photo Black, I presume? > > Can't wait to try this... the ink is in the mail. > > -Pieris > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > I just printed the Costco paper on a 1280 with the Ilford Galerie > neutral > > curve. As with the Ilford paper (and this Costco paper probably is > made by > > the Swiss Ilford group), use media type "Photo Quality Glossy Film." > The > > initial dmax came in at 2.4. 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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Kirkland & UT2 (was Lot #?)
2005-01-12 by mehrdad
thank you On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:00:36 -0800, Paul Roark <paul.roark@verizon.net> wrote: > > >paul what curve do i need to use on the epson 1280 with ut2 eboni ink > >with the costco paper > > The curves are the "UT2-IlfordSmooth-Eboni-..." There are neutral, cool, > carbon and sepia versions. There are also curves for when PK is installed. > Use Media Type "Photo Quality Glossy Film." > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:59:07 -0800, Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> > wrote: > > > > Pieris, > > > > I should have been more clear. The 2.4 initial dmax on the Costco paper > was > > with Eboni installed and the curve that cuts out the Eboni and generates > the > > black with the dark grays. By the way, all these huge dmax numbers come > > down as the print ages a few days. > > > > I don't think the current PK is needed for very much. In my 7500, with IJC > > I'm able to generate a better dmax with FSN-C than with PK on Premium > > Semimatte -- which raises some very interesting issues. As you might > guess, > > I'm about to explore making a new and better PK. It seems I already have, > > but by accident. So, the question is whether I can do even better if I > try > > -- maybe not. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pieris Berreitter [mailto:pieris@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:33 PM > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Kirkland & UT2 (was Lot #?) > > > > w/Photo Black, I presume? > > > > Can't wait to try this... the ink is in the mail. > > > > -Pieris > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > > I just printed the Costco paper on a 1280 with the Ilford Galerie > > neutral > > > curve. 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Re: Kirkland Lot #?
2005-01-12 by awahlster
My boxes say 170190 and 170468 I girl told me there were some 225+ boxes per pallet. Mark W. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@y...> wrote:
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> > I just picked up 5 boxes of Swiss made Kirkland. > > A number stamped on the back of the box, above the UPC, is: 172026 > > > Just wondering what other people might have. > > > Scott
[Digital BW] Re: Kirkland & UT2 (was Lot #?)
2005-01-12 by Pieris Berreitter
Thanks Paul. I haven't tried your workflow on the Kirkland paper, since I didn't have luck with the Ilford Pearl. I'll give it a go. I thought the Dmax fade could be stopped with spray? -Pieris --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > Pieris, > > I should have been more clear. The 2.4 initial dmax on the Costco paper was > with Eboni installed and the curve that cuts out the Eboni and generates the > black with the dark grays. By the way, all these huge dmax numbers come > down as the print ages a few days. > > I don't think the current PK is needed for very much. In my 7500, with IJC > I'm able to generate a better dmax with FSN-C than with PK on Premium > Semimatte -- which raises some very interesting issues. As you might guess, > I'm about to explore making a new and better PK. It seems I already have, > but by accident. So, the question is whether I can do even better if I try > -- maybe not. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pieris Berreitter [mailto:pieris@y...] > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:33 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Kirkland & UT2 (was Lot #?) > > > > w/Photo Black, I presume? > > Can't wait to try this... the ink is in the mail. > > -Pieris > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > I just printed the Costco paper on a 1280 with the Ilford Galerie > neutral > > curve. As with the Ilford paper (and this Costco paper probably is > made by > > the Swiss Ilford group), use media type "Photo Quality Glossy Film." > The > > initial dmax came in at 2.4. That's about as good as it gets. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY
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Re: Kirkland Lot #?
2005-01-12 by scott_now_coming
Well, that Kirkland paper is now my "standard" paper. Epson should be ashamed of themselves for selling a paper that cost 4 1/2 time Costco and isn't even as good. And for color? Blows away the Epson Professional papers. No annoying green cast. I have a re-newed respect for my R800! Awesome. I can use one paper for B&W and color! Scott --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "awahlster" <awahlster@a...> wrote:
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> > My boxes say 170190 and 170468 > > I girl told me there were some 225+ boxes per pallet. > > Mark W. > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, > "scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@y...> wrote: > > > > I just picked up 5 boxes of Swiss made Kirkland. > > > > A number stamped on the back of the box, above the UPC, is: 172026 > > > > > > Just wondering what other people might have. > > > > > > Scott
Re: Kirkland Lot #?
2005-01-12 by scott_now_coming
Well, that Kirkland paper is now my "standard" paper. Epson should be ashamed of themselves for selling a paper that cost 4 1/2 time Costco and isn't even as good. And for color? Blows away the Epson Professional papers. No annoying green cast. I have a re-newed respect for my R800! Awesome. I can use one paper for B&W and color! Scott --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "awahlster" <awahlster@a...> wrote:
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> > My boxes say 170190 and 170468 > > I girl told me there were some 225+ boxes per pallet. > > Mark W. > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, > "scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@y...> wrote: > > > > I just picked up 5 boxes of Swiss made Kirkland. > > > > A number stamped on the back of the box, above the UPC, is: 172026 > > > > > > Just wondering what other people might have. > > > > > > Scott
RE: [Digital BW] Re: Kirkland & UT2 (was Lot #?)
2005-01-12 by Paul Roark
Pieris, >I thought the Dmax fade could be stopped with spray? Yes, PremierArt spray will kick the dmax back up. Losing gloss is a major part of the problem -- and also, I believe, why the PK is not doing better. What is happening is not fading as we usually use that term, it's gloss loss. Since many will not spray prints, I need to compromise the total carbon on the paper (ink load) with the realities of gloss loss on the papers that are most important to us. I think I can do this, and I doubt MIS's PK was designed from this perspective (by MIS's supplier & its chemist). Paul www.PaulRoark.com --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > Pieris, > > I should have been more clear. The 2.4 initial dmax on the Costco paper was > with Eboni installed and the curve that cuts out the Eboni and generates the > black with the dark grays. By the way, all these huge dmax numbers come > down as the print ages a few days. > > I don't think the current PK is needed for very much. In my 7500, with IJC > I'm able to generate a better dmax with FSN-C than with PK on Premium > Semimatte -- which raises some very interesting issues. As you might guess, > I'm about to explore making a new and better PK. It seems I already have, > but by accident. So, the question is whether I can do even better if I try > -- maybe not. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pieris Berreitter [mailto:pieris@y...] > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:33 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Kirkland & UT2 (was Lot #?) > > > > w/Photo Black, I presume? > > Can't wait to try this... the ink is in the mail. > > -Pieris > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > I just printed the Costco paper on a 1280 with the Ilford Galerie > neutral > > curve. As with the Ilford paper (and this Costco paper probably is > made by > > the Swiss Ilford group), use media type "Photo Quality Glossy Film." > The > > initial dmax came in at 2.4. That's about as good as it gets. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. 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Re: better Dmax with FSN-C (was Kirkland & UT2)
2005-01-12 by evanj1969
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > I don't think the current PK is needed for very much. In my 7500, > with IJC > > I'm able to generate a better dmax with FSN-C than with PK on Premium Semimatte -- > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com how much better? i'm getting 2.20-2.30 on EPSG with Photo K/PremierArt spray using IJC or Photoshop/Epson drive. (but would be VERY interested in a cooler K, even if it was of the same density) i have been very interested in trying EPSM though. would the same apply for EPSG? are you saying the we could replace the Photo K with FSN-C, or is it matter of manipulating the curves with a mix to achieve that level of Dmax? evan