Hi Nick, I see that Lou already provided a fairly detailed answer, but I'll toss in a thought or two...well, too! Did you build your initial EEM profile from the one that was delivered with the software? I'm assuming that any discussion regarding profiles is applicable to both Mac and Windows platforms. I'm using the newly release Windows version so my comments are based on that. I received three different "neutral" starter profiles for EEM. I believe each had the black ink limit set to 22. My Epson 2200 with standard UC inks demanded 23 or 24--can't remember the exact number cuz I worked on 4 profiles, yesterday--to reach dMax. This is evaluated by selecting "Target Patches" off the "Print Targets" button. Did you print these patches and evaluate after drying (I tossed mine in the microwave for 10 secs on high)? As Lou said, one has to be very careful with ink limits; too little and, of course, you won't achieve dMax. However, too much is not good, either, because you'll actually reduce dMax. Therefore, it's bad procedure to arbitrarily bump the black ink limit to 26. You could be doing more harm than good. If you haven't done this already, take a look at the usage of other inks and where the curves start/stop, too. Good luck, Alan Huntley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Nugent" <nick_h_nugent@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 11:54 AM Subject: [Digital BW] IJC/OPM and dmax issue Hello IJC/OPM users, I was initially very thrilled at the ability to create quad tone profiles very quickly using IJC but after printing one of my favorite image for comparision with one using the IJC profile and one using Paul Roark's curve for MIS UT-FS for EEM paper I noticed that the one using Paul's curve is significantly more brilliant. It's not the the IJC/OPM image is flat, it's very nicely rendered. Smooth gradients with good details in both shadow and highlights. But measurements of darkest patches show the one printed using Paul's curve has the expected high DMax of 1.67 or somewhere about there. The one rendered by OPM yields about 1.59. This is enough to show the first one has significantly more punch when they are placed side by side. Can someone explain? I played with IJC to push maximum ink limit, increase the black ink setting, cut off the medium gray earlier, force maximum overlap, etc. but there are no changes. The maximum dmax remained the same. Thanks, --nick [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Digital BW] IJC/OPM and dmax issue
2005-01-30 by A. Huntley
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