The Ilford Classic is for dyes. It will probably not dry. The Smooth is what we need for pigments. For less bronzing, try Epson Premium Semimatte, or Costco Kirkland Signature Pre Glossy for 8x10. Epson Glossy Photo paper is the only one that has virtually no reflective artifacts without either a spray or glop. However, it's only letter size, a bit flimsy, and doesn't have the best dmax. PremierArt Print Shield spray will get rid of bronzing. Glop will get rid of it on the best papers and reduce it on many others. Paul www.PaulRoark.com __________________________ -----Original Message----- From: photoian@... [mailto:photoian@...] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:38 PM To: Group Subject: [Digital BW] Bronzing Is there a difference between Ilford Smooth Pearl and Ilford Classic Pearl? I just printed a B&W image on ICP using QTR on an Epson 4000 and it looks great to me. I don't know that I've ever seen anything that I would call "bronzing" with any of the papers and printers I've used. I've certainly seen metamerism from my 1280 but I wouldn't call that bronzing. Ian Message: 18 Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 09:48:17 -0000 From: "lindstromdick" <d_pics@...> Subject: B&W on Ilford Smooth Pearl I have tried to print black/white using the Quad Tone rip with my Epson 4000 and Ilford Smooth pearl paper. The B&W was beautiful, but the bronzing was severe. Any hints on how to imrove the result? Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: [Digital BW] Bronzing
2005-03-08 by Paul Roark
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