Digital BW, The Print

Michael...

You mention below that  "you can have almost any profiling 
service profile your inks and papers as printed on YOUR printer ..." 

Yep you could. But at what expense?  

Consider that Piezo software comes with professionally made profiles for about 30 papers or so.  

How much would that cost if done separately or through a profiling service?  

Venture to guess? 

And are they Grayscale profiles for quadtones or profiles for color inks? 

And what about the hassles of printing the targets and sending them to the profiling service and the time and expense of actually shipping them and the time wasted waiting for them to return...etc...

And what about low cost future additions to the profile list?  How much would that cost from the hypothetical profiling service?  

I think the profiles included with the Piezo system are the best bargain on the market for accurate and working and effective printing...assuming you want professional results.  

Of course someone may want to do their own profiles and buy their own software and other hardware tools needed to do so.  I sure don't.  I don't have the time. 

I like the fact that the profiles for Piezo are so....easy...and relatively cheap.   Yup...easy, inexpensive, effective,  and they "came in the box."  

Steadman
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael J. Kravit 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 1:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] FS


  "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@t...> wrote:
  ...BTW FS really is pretty close to ppiezo inks, slightly cooler, and 
  you need to do a slight curve action to reduce contrast on files done 
  for piezo inks, but once you have the monitor working space set up it 
  is plug n play."

  Actually from testing done by a number of well placed experts (sound 
  like a political spin) the MIS FS inks print with a 1 stop density 
  loss using the Piezo Driver and a 1-1/2 stop loss in contrast.

  This should be easily fixable either in the ink formulation or as you 
  suggest in using an adjustment curve.

  When working on new files I find this to not be an issue. But when 
  printing old files that were created for Piezo, the density loss 
  becomes evident so I have to create a second file to print with the 
  MIS FS inks.

  A commercial RIP that has ICC/ICM profiles for papers and inks should 
  take away this problem. That is the biggest difference between a 
  professional RIP and the Piezo system. With the Piezography system 
  you are dependent on IJM to profile your papers and provide you with 
  the profiles. On an open RIP, you can have almost any profiling 
  service profile your inks and papers as printed on YOUR printer and 
  get accurate profiles.

  The plug and play aspect of the Piezo system is really very 
  convenient and a big plus. Right now the Pro version of the Piezo RIP 
  had new profiles for almost everyone of the newest papers on the 
  market. I suspect that Cone will make them available for the Pulg-In 
  versions of the software very shortly.

  Mike


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