Steve; I find it curious that only a few short weeks after 'the great glop debate'none of the responders have brought gloss optimizer (glop)up as as option. I suppose this means most have written it off as an option for one reason or another. Since the R1800 is out , and both Roy (QTR) and Paul Roark are workng to support it, I feel that dismissing the technique is very premature, so I'll give you a brief summary: Gloss optimizer as you probably know is a resin solution used in one of the R800 channels to even out the gloss differential and eliminate 'bronzing'with the UC inks when used on gloss/semigloss papers. The R1800 is set up the same way, just a bigger printer. Some of us experimented a few weeks back with MIS' version of the product, either overcoating with a second pass, or using QTR or another rip to control a glop channel. The results are quite worth the extra trouble if you are still 'hung up' on the air-dried glossy look, or need hi-gloss for those vulgar (in my opinion) PR shots that some keep referring to. Epson premium semi-matte, or a smooth semi-gloss paper takes on a surface sheen that is the closest yet to air-dried, and the dmax kicks up to well over 2.0 (compared to 1.7 for matte papers) with a clearing and deepening of shadow detail that is every bit as nice as a fiber print. If you are using a UC printer with QTR and color inks, the glop benefits your color printing as well. The down side? well, the extra complexity of course, if you're doing it with a printer(s) not setup for it. Also, the glop offers no real protection like the printshield does. And, the MIS version right now is not clear, but slightly tea-colored, so if you put it on too thick it visibly warms the tone of the print and paper. My opinion on the gloss/vs matte issue is that we are more hung up on it than the print-buying segment of the art market. Many buyers, collectors, gallerist, etc. are still a lot more hung-up on silver- gel vs. inkjet as a whole and don't really give serious consideration to the details of inkjet prints beyond just picking them apart. The real educational job here is to get that bias out of our way- the technical side will evolve quickly enough. Steve Karafyllakis In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "SteveZ" <blizzie12@y...> wrote: > > > Today I met with an old associate of mine, he owns a local framing > store, but his specialty is fine art photography and portraiture. > Originally from eastern Europe, where he received his training in > traditional, analogue photography/print making, he now makes his > living in Canada, still shooting film with wet dark room processing. > > I had him look at some of my digital b&w prints done on EEM paper > with my 2200, and he was impressed, except for one thing: > > "No Glossy Paper." > > I suppose in his mind, a black and white print does not have much > merit unless it's produced on glossy or semi-gloss photographic > paper. He suggested I make some prints on semi gloss paper as an > experiment and and I told him I would try and show him the results. > > What are your opinions about using glossy media for fine art prints? >
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Re: If you print and sell black and white prints, please read this thread
2005-04-21 by Steven Karafyllakis
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