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Re: [Digital BW] Re: QTR and MAC OS X

2005-04-22 by Barbara White

Scott,

Where do you get these profiles?  I did not see them in the stuff that 
came with the program....just a bunch of profiles for different 
papers....

Barbara White
On Apr 17, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Steve Kale wrote:

>
> Scott
>
> The greyscale ICC profiles I described are output profiles - more
> specifically, printer profiles.  You are talking about workspace.  Dot 
> gain
> 20 or whatever doesn't matter IF AND ONLY IF you colour manage the 
> output
> stage.  If you don't use colour management at the output stage you 
> will end
> up in the thread "Best RIP for 2200" to one degree or another.  My
> recommendation is to stay in a generally used greyscale workspace like 
> Gray
> Gamma 2.2 (a direct subset of Adobe RGB) and colour manage the output 
> stage
> with one of the two printer profiles.  [I work in QTR Gray which is Lab
> without the a and b channels but only because I find L* more intuitive 
> for
> B&W - I still can't think in Lab for colour!]
>
>
> So use of the printer files (QTR-Gray Matte paper or QTR-Gray Photo 
> paper)
> is not mandatory - one can do whatever one wants - but if you want to 
> use
> the tool properly then you should.  Think of these two profiles as 
> profiles
> for generic printers for generic matte/photo paper.
>
>
> If you send an RGB file OS-X takes it to greyscale on the fly.  
> Generally
> not recommended.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>> From: Scott Graham <gebilwil@netscape.net>
>>
>>
>>
>> the first reply to you is the scoop
>>
>> this is just to clarify that not only don't you need the GUI, there 
>> isn't one
>> for the Mac.  Also
>> you can print Photoshop files directly without saving as TIFF.
>>
>> And you don't need to use the grayscale profiles as described in 
>> Steve's
>> reply.  Can use
>> just grayscale dot gain x (20% for ex) or even the RGB file.  With 
>> little time
>> to test so far, I
>> seem to get the same results.
>>
>> That doesn't mean that the gray profiles aren't the way to go in the 
>> future;
>> just not
>> required.
>>
>> Scott
>>
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