Scott, Where do you get these profiles? I did not see them in the stuff that came with the program....just a bunch of profiles for different papers.... Barbara White On Apr 17, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Steve Kale wrote: > > Scott > > The greyscale ICC profiles I described are output profiles - more > specifically, printer profiles. You are talking about workspace. Dot > gain > 20 or whatever doesn't matter IF AND ONLY IF you colour manage the > output > stage. If you don't use colour management at the output stage you > will end > up in the thread "Best RIP for 2200" to one degree or another. My > recommendation is to stay in a generally used greyscale workspace like > Gray > Gamma 2.2 (a direct subset of Adobe RGB) and colour manage the output > stage > with one of the two printer profiles. [I work in QTR Gray which is Lab > without the a and b channels but only because I find L* more intuitive > for > B&W - I still can't think in Lab for colour!] > > > So use of the printer files (QTR-Gray Matte paper or QTR-Gray Photo > paper) > is not mandatory - one can do whatever one wants - but if you want to > use > the tool properly then you should. Think of these two profiles as > profiles > for generic printers for generic matte/photo paper. > > > If you send an RGB file OS-X takes it to greyscale on the fly. > Generally > not recommended. > > Steve > > > >> From: Scott Graham <gebilwil@netscape.net> >> >> >> >> the first reply to you is the scoop >> >> this is just to clarify that not only don't you need the GUI, there >> isn't one >> for the Mac. Also >> you can print Photoshop files directly without saving as TIFF. >> >> And you don't need to use the grayscale profiles as described in >> Steve's >> reply. Can use >> just grayscale dot gain x (20% for ex) or even the RGB file. With >> little time >> to test so far, I >> seem to get the same results. >> >> That doesn't mean that the gray profiles aren't the way to go in the >> future; >> just not >> required. >> >> Scott >> > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See „Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines‰ in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE „OWNER‰ > AND „MODERATORS‰ OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE „OWNER‰ AND „MODERATORS‰ OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > barbara@... www.barbarawhitephoto.com www.worldartphotographs.com
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: QTR and MAC OS X
2005-04-22 by Barbara White
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