The piezo box for desktop is the best way to go I agree. After you've purchased the kit there are now other inks to use - but the piezo is the only system that offers something like a RIP for desktop. As Martin said - even buying the software and chucking the inks is cheap! Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steadman Uhlich" <steadmanuhlich@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Profiles: Are they valuable? Does Piezo have an Advantage? was FS > Julian, > > I know that Mike uses a 7000 (lucky guy). > > But..most of the people on this list use low cost desktop printers. As I recall this thread began with a discussion of profiles and Piezo as a low cost and economical solution....not really a discussion of 7000 printers or the cost of 7000 software. > > Given that the PiezoBW plugin (using a printer which may cost as low as $99) easily delivers results that compare (indeed may not be differentiated from) the prints off of machines which may cost thousands of dollars (7000 or others).... > > I still maintain that the PiezoBW software (with included 30 profiles) is a great bargain. > > If someone wants to spend $6000 on a printer and a RIP....that is fine. (grin) > > IF someone wants to get similar results (prints) and only has a few hundred dollars, I recommend Piezo. > > At least that is how I see it. (wink) > > Steadman > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Julian Thomas > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 4:56 AM > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Profiles: Are they valuable? Does Piezo have an Advantage? was FS > > > Steadman - for a 7000 the Piezo Rip is more than a few dollars. Mike only > uses a 7000. > > Julian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steadman Uhlich" <steadmanuhlich@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 7:59 AM > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Profiles: Are they valuable? Does Piezo have > an Advantage? was FS > > > > Michael... > > > > Uhhh..hum....How much is that RIP you mention gonna cost someone? > > > > Now compare that to the few hundred dollars for the Piezo plugin. > > > > How do they compare? > > > > Steadman > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Michael J. Kravit > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 9:44 PM > > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Profiles: Are they valuable? Does Piezo have > an Advantage? was FS > > > > > > Steadman, > > > > Of course not being argumantative, I would like to explain to you > > that Professional RIP's that cost in the same range as the Piezo RIP > > in many cases come with a huge number of canned profiles just as > > Piezo does. > > > > For example, the ImagePrint 4.0 software comes with over 30 ink/paper > > combinations and is growing every day. > > > > You are correct that Profiling can cost around $100 / paper/ink > > combination. If you use 30 papers that can become expensive. BUT, > > assuming that at any one time you will be using 4-5 papers, I really > > don't see this as a major problem. Not for the professional, and > > these RIP's are geared toward the professional. > > > > The point being, when a new paper comes out and we want it, we must > > wait for IJM to profile it and publish it. If they were to use ICC > > profiles instead of their proprietary ICQ profiles, you could have a > > profile within a day or two at a reasonable cost. > > > > Believe me, I am a big fan of the Piezography software. We are not > > debating the merits of Piezo vs. Wausatch vs. Best, vs. Image Print > > 4.0. I am only suggesting that a bit of flexibility would be a > > positive for the professional user and IJM atthe same time. > > > > Have you ever seen the layout options afforded by the professional > > RIP's? In reading the ImagePrint brochure for example, you can use > > their RIP to print Quadtone images and RGB images on different > > printers at the same time. That is flexability! If there is an > > inkset that comes out, you just profile it and the RIP will handle > > it. That is flexibility. > > > > In the world of digital photography, things change so fast, that > > flexibility comes in very handy. > > > > Mike > > > > > > Yahoo! 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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Profiles: Are they valuable? Does Piezo have an Advantage? was FS
2001-12-02 by Julian Thomas