Yahoo Groups archive

Digital BW, The Print

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 22:56 UTC

Message

[Digital BW] Re: Ultrachrome K3 inks?

2005-04-29 by chipcarterdc

I'm not sure this can be considered pure speculation, since it is in a major 
magazine (not that Shutterbug is a particularly good magazine).  I admit that 
Shutterbug could be wrong, or that the guy who posted the text from the 
Shutterbug article could be wrong.

Also, if the new printers can use both Photo and Matte black at the same time 
(without swapping them), these would be 9 ink printers, not 8 inks.

Oh, and rebates don't always indicate a replacement and the lack of rebates 
doesn't always mean there's not a replacement.  There's currently a large 
rebate on the Canon 1D Mk II, but it seems highly unlikely that it will be 
replaced any time soon.  Conversely, there wasn't, to my knowledge, a Canon 
rebate on the Canon 1Ds before the 1Ds Mark II was released.

Nonethless, we shall see what happens...


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Seth" <seth@m...> 
wrote:
>  Don't speculate so much.  
> First, just like camera companies, watch for large rebates.  This usually
> preceeds the drop of a line.
> (I.E.,When Nikon gives $500 rebate on their pro cameras, their history in
> three months.)
> 
> Using OR in a statement MAY just mean it uses one or the other; not that a
> change is required.
> 
> Using R would mean what?  All "Photo" Epsons do not use the same ink.
> 
> Relax. Don't read into the releases, reviews and speculation.  
> 
> Want to speculate?  Try dpreview--those guys are masters!! <GGG>
> 
> Seth
> 
> 
> 
> ==-----Original Message-----
> ==Behalf Of chipcarterdc
> ==Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:04 AM
> ==
> ==I have several thoughts about this:
> ==
> ==(1) What are the other 3 new printers using the new inkset 
> ==other than the R2400?  I can see replacements for the 9600 
> ==and the 7600, but would the fourth printer be a replacement 
> ==for the 4000?
> ==
> ==(2) Notice that it refers to photo OR matte black.  That 
> ==would indicate that, like the 2200/7600/9600, and unlike the 
> ==4000, R1800 and R800, it can only have one of these inks 
> ==loaded at a time.  If true, that seems like a silly step backwards.
> ==
> ==(3) Why would the new printers be designated "Rxxxx" if 
> ==they're not using the R800/1800 inks?
> ==
> ==(4) Doesn't this leave the 4000 as kind of an orphan in the 
> ==lineup?  It doesn't fit with the R800/1800, which use the 
> ==gloss optimizer and red/blue inks.  It doesn't fit with the 
> ==2200/7600/9600, because it can hold photo and matte black at 
> ==the same time.  And it doesn't fit with the new printers either.  
> ==UNLESS, as someone suggested, Epson shows some common sense 
> ==and allows use of the new inks and "advanced B&W print mode" 
> ==in the 4000 by a firmware/driver update -- since the 4000 
> ==already has 8 ink channels, this would seem sensible unless

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.