Digital BW, The Print

Doug,

You're right, I do have a neutral PSM curve for the 1280 and UT2.  I also
made a version of that for Glop. 

I don't see any notes on media type, so I assume the usual UT2 Curves
settings are used.

I did notice the Green & Red black points on the curves were the opposite of
what usually gives the best dmax, so I made a version 2 with the points
reversed.  I'll see how they work today.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Douglas
> meeuwsen
> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 1:39 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson Pr.Semi matte....Roark workflow
> 
> hmmmmm....I have a curve from you (i think) for premium semi and glop
> and eboni.....it is only one curve, neutral. I use the 1280, with
> UT2/glop. Tomorrow, after I get the clear carts installed I will mess
> around with some diferent things, like trying the diferent media
> settings on a step wedge etc.......now I wonder where that curve came
> from!
> take care, DM
> On Apr 30, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Paul Roark wrote:
> 
> > Doug,
> >
> >  I use Epson Premium Semimatte (PSM) with the newer UT inksets (not
> > UT1) and
> >  no Glop.  I spray it after I print.  My workflow is just the normal
> >  Photoshop RGB curves, Epson driver, with Eboni installed but not
> > used.  The
> >  black is generated by the 2 dark gray inks.
> >
> >  Because PSM was not available in smaller sizes, I have not made many
> > curves
> >  for it.  I suppose I should do that now that more people will be
> > cutting it
> >  down from 17 x 22.
> >
> >  What printer and inkset are you using?
> >
> >  Paul
> >  www.PaulRoark.com
> >
> >
> >  > -----Original Message-----
> >  > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> >  > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > Douglas
> >  > meeuwsen
> >  > Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 6:09 PM
> >  > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> >  > Subject: [Digital BW] Epson Pr.Semi matte....Roark workflow
> >  >
> >  > I was at a gallerie yesterday, and the BW darkroom prints looked
> > pretty
> >  > good with a very nice surface, and no glass in front. I asked the
> > guy
> >  > what kind of paper it was, thinking they may have been ink prints,
> > and
> >  > he said "semi-matte, darkroom".....Anyways, I still have not been
> > able
> >  > to get the kind of quality that I get from kirkland from my
> > semi-matte
> >  > using the curves for ebony and glop. I suspect that it is The media
> >  > setting, which I am not sure of. When I use the glossy film setting,
> >  > the shadows are kind of posterized, and when I use the premium
> > glossy
> >  > setting the ink is way too heavy. I just did a print with premium
> >  > semigloss, and it did turn out quite nice. The glop is less
> > effective
> >  > with semigloss that it is with kirkland and semi-matte. I do like
> > the
> >  > surface of semi the best, and the glop works great on it.
> >  >
> >  > So I am wondering if I should experiment more with media settings,
> > or
> >  > adjust the curves. I almost think that the ilford curves may work
> >  > better than the semimatte curve. (accidentally chose the wrong one
> > one
> >  > time. It was the ilford carbon curve, looked pretty good, but it
> > was a
> >  > diferent image)
> >  >
> >  > So, Paul, or anyone that may be trying this combo, what do you guys
> >  > suggest? I have been doing some experiments jsut trying to drain my
> >  > last prefilled glop cart. It is finally empty, so tomorrow I will
> >  > attemp switching over to the clear carts. Crossing my fingers!
> >  >
> >  > as Usual, all info is much appreciated,
> >  >
> >  > Doug M
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