Thanks for sharing your experience. What did you mean by "using the printers full bore ink rendition? Al Charbonneau In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Jones" <peanutdogs@h...> wrote: > My experience with making injet digital negatives for silver prints > > Being somewhat frustrated by my lack of more precise control in the > traditional darkroom now that I have been exposed to Photoshop, I > have experimented with Mark Nelson's Precision Digital Negative > system to make black and white digital injet negatives and then > contact print them on silver paper. > > I have used my Epson R800 printer and Pictorico White film for the > negative. I have used Ilford Multigrade IV fiber glossy paper and > traditional processing with selenium toning. I feel that I have been > completely sucessful and have been able to avoid the microbanding > that others have complained about. > > Here are more details: > > The precision Digital Negative process uses these steps. > > -Determine a standard silver printing time with a 21 step wedge > -determine a color density to use for printing the negative > -use this to fit the range of tones to the paper and process > -print a negative with a full range of tones using the above steps > and make a contact print > -measure those contact printed tones with a densitometer or scanner. > -manufacture a correction Photoshop curve to linearize those tones. > > What this gives you is a repeatable process that takes advantage of > the full range of your paper and makes it possible to transfer what > you see on the screen directly to your darkroom paper. No more > manual dodging, burning, flashing, contrast filter manipulation, > exposure determination,unsharp masking, waiting for drydown etc. > The Precision Digital Negative system gives you all the instructions > and the software to do all the steps very precisely so that all of > this is repeatable once you calibrate your working environment. > > I noticed two main things as I worked my way through this prcess. > > First, the system has you pick a color density of ink to use for > making the negative because I believe most people who use this > system are interested in platinum work where UV light is used and > therefore using the different color inks can make a difference here. > I found that for silver work, choosing just a color of ink did not > supply enough density to fit a full range of tones on variable > contrast paper without cranking the contrast filter of my enlarger > (used as a fancy contact printing light source) way up to level five > and this did not look good at all. So I fell back on using the > printer's full bore ink rendition of producing a black and white > negative with all the color inks. Now it was possible to make a > negative that worked with varible contrast paper set at the filter > #1 level and the results looked great. > > Secondly, I found that indeed I did get very faint microbanding when > I printed the inkjet negative at the "best photo" setting of the > R800 which corresponds to a dpi setting of 2880. It was very faint > and only visible in the creamy highlights of skin tones. My friends > didn't see it until I pointed it out and then they could. I was not > satisfied with this and felt maybe this process couldn't be done > well with silver paper. BUT, I tried again with the "RPM" setting on > the Epson driver which corresponds to a dpi setting of 5760. Well, > after recalibrating the process to this new dpi setting, the results > were fabulous. Recalibrating the system was absolutely necessary in > that it was clear that the ink was laid down with very different > density at this higher setting. This step solved, in my system, > the microbanding issue that some have spoken of in forums. I believe > now that this print is indistinguishable from my enlarger made print > except that the control of the tones is so much better than I am > amazed. > > This was an 8x10 negative and print. My original plan was to upgrade > to the R1800 printer so that I could make 11x14 negatives and > prints. With the new Epson R2400 coming out, I will hold off to see > what that printer will be like. However, both printers offer > the "RPM" or 5760 dpi setting that appears to be crucial to getting > rid of the light microbanding on exceptionally unforgiving silver > gelatin paper. My suspicion is that this might not work with the > 2200 printer. For platinum work on art papers, this system will have > no problems and if I did those processes, I would be all over this > system in a heart beat! > > So there you have it. After a month of experimenting, I feel that > this sytem will truly work with the current newest Epson printers > and may be an ideal hybridization between the control of Photoshop > and the wonderful dmax and luster/feel of silver gelatin papers. > > Please feel free to comment.
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Re: B&W Digital negative with R800 printer successful for silver printing
2005-05-23 by al_charbonneau
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