Digital BW, The Print

To tie this back to the MIS and obsolescence thread, the real
threat from Epson's new LLK and B&W printing driver is the
sheer convenience.

Nothing wrong with densitometers and the like, but I believe
that has to become some kind of "advanced mode" of activity
on top of or beyond a still very capable but much more convenient
mode of working with digital B&W printing.

If MIS has a better mousetrap for B&W printing, they need to
start packaging the technology into solutions accessible to
a market larger than the hardcore cogniscenti.

Scott

chipcarterdc wrote:

> I'm glad you raised this. I find myself often furstrated and confused 
> by the
> tech-dominated nature of most discussions about digital imaging and 
> printing.
> Not that there's anything wrong with a tech approach: I'm sure it's 
> valuable for
> many people and I'm not intending to slam anyone here. But I totally 
> zone out
> (no pun intended) when I read a discussion of printing techniques that
> involves "You just need a photo-spectro-densito-device-thingy to 
> linearize the
> output so that a printed step wedge reflects values of 1.44 to 
> 2.67...." As I
> said, I'm sure that's useful to many people, but not to me, so I'd 
> also be
> interested in hearing about more visually-oriented resources.
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Djon" <
> westsidemaurice@y...> wrote:
> > Zone System diverged into intuitive/visual and quantitative/geek back in
> > the day...some people were techie, others more visual...different 
> strokes.
> >
> > Obviously the same divide occurs with inkjet printing (and scanning
> > and post processing)...they can be done very well technically by using
> > one's eyes or by using measurements. I know this is controversial: the
> > techie side generally dominates discussions, just as there are more
> > engineers in this world than there are poets (and we do need both).
> >
> > Are there visually-oriented (not quantitatively oriented) sites,
> > books, gurus, Forums that occupy themselves with the combination of
> > FILM, scanning, and inkjet printing?
> >
> > I'm stressing *FILM* because so many of us know it intimately, are
> > well equipped for it, and aren't yet seeing consistently comparable
> > results from the best digital photographers.
> >
> > I'm NOT looking for basic Zone System...not White/Adams/Picker et al:
> > their concepts do relate but don't apply as intuitively and simply to
> > Vuescan, Silverfast, Epson or Nikon or Minolta scanner apps.
> >
> > Links? Books? People? Ideas?
> >
> > Djon
>
>
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other 
> resources as they are often being updated.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
>
> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish 
> to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting 
> this same page.
>
> Please follow these basic guidelines:
> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to 
> keep them short.
> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or 
> flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from 
> the membership without notice.
> - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital 
> B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be 
> removed from the membership.
> - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and 
> guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group 
> Owner and Moderators. See \ufffdGroup Topic, Rules and Guidelines\ufffd in the 
> Files section:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/
>
> BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE 
> PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd 
> AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE 
> LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, 
> CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, 
> DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE 
> LOSSES (EVEN IF THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT 
> YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), 
> RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, 
> THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF 
> YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD 
> PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER 
> MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *Yahoo! Groups Links*
>
>     * To visit your group on the web, go to:
>       http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/
>     * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>       DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>       <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>
>     * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
>       Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
>
>