Digital BW, The Print

Look, I wasn't talking about raw capabilities. I was talking about
OBE - Out of the Box Experience. QTR is very cool, but the
documentation and "trimmings" has a long way to go.

I read of different profiling methods (densitometer, i1, scanner), but no
detailed system requirements for each of the methods. Terminology is
bandied about without explanation. File formats, etc. I'v asked just
a few questions on the QTR forum and received 0 responses.

Is there a centralized repository of paper/ink profiles? Why not?
Epson UC and MIS (UT7?) seem the dominant ink sets. Not so
onerous to provide more profiles for more papers with these ink
sets.

I've spent a career shipping commercial software. Writing the code
isn't nearly 1/2. the game.

Again, OBE - I was just congratulating Paul on a pleasant OBE for his
C86 + Espson Driver + Sliders package by comparison.

Scott

Brian Ellis wrote:

> >Will I have to learn to create my own >profiles? Will I have to switch to
> >an MIS inkset and abandon the color >print capabilities with the UC inks?
>
> As long as you use a paper for which there's a curve in QTR or for 
> which a
> QTR curve can be used you won't have to create your own. Otherwise you 
> will
> (or download one from someone who's already done it for the particular
> paper). There's a curve in QTR for EEM, there isn't for the other two 
> papers
> you mention.
>
> You also shouldn't have to switch to MIS inks. But to get any useful
> information here I think you'll have to do more than just say another
> printer and ink "kicks the crap out of QTR." You'll have to explain what
> the problem is with your QTR/UC/EEM/2200 prints and what settings you're
> using. Many people seem to get excellent results with that combination.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott McLoughlin" <scott@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:03 AM
> Subject: [Digital BW] C86 Glossy Printing - Question and a Comment on QTR
>
>
> So I've loaded up the PK into the C86 and am printing
> on the Kirkland paper (bought from MIS, so I don't know
> what "version" of the paper this is). Ilford Smooth Pearl is
> in the bullpen.
>
> Question first. I like a "warmish" tone on my matte prints.
> For matte, I use MK, EZN cyan, and EZW majenta and
> yellow.
>
> Just switching to PK, the glossy prints look more warm/brown
> than my matte prints. After drying and spraying with PrintShield,
> the blacks firm up a bit, but still a little too warm for my tastes.
> Other than this, the prints look really fantastic.
>
> Any suggestions on a EZW/EZN set to match to "somewhat
> warmish" prints I get on matte paper (EEM for the sake of
> argument)?
>
> Now a comment. I've been experimenting with QTR and
> the UC inks in my new 2200. All matte papers: EEM, lately
> some early experiments with Kayenta and Premier Premium
> (much whiter papers than EEM and the resulting print generally
> much "grainier" looking in the highlights than EEM).
>
> I know there are alot of options to explore, but *so far*, the little
> C86 and EZ inks setup just kicks the crap out of anything I've
> managed to produce with QTR + the UC inks.
>
> Pauls straightforward documentation on suggested driver settings
> for different papers are clear, easy to follow and generally work
> pretty darn well right out of the box.
>
> I've paid up recently on QTR (a heavy burden lifted from my shoulders),
> and I'm going to keep trying. Although I'm curious to what lengths I'll
> have to go to get good results.
>
> Will I have to learn to create my own profiles? Will I have to switch to
> an MIS inkset and abandon the color print capabilities with the UC inks?
>
> Dunno. I can say that a (1) central online library of profiles for common
> ink sets + paper combos and (2) some guidance on the various sliders in
> QTRGui (ink limit, etc.) might well go a long way to making for a better
> QTR "out of the box experience."
>
> In the meantime, many thanks and kudos to Paul for his wonderful,
> EZ and inexpensive C86 based setup.
>
> Scott
>
>
>
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