John, That interesting sample looks like it ought to be able to be printed with a monotone inkset of the right tone/hue. It looks like a carbon-sepia type tone. For UT7 sepia I use a combination of carbon, 7600 yellow and R800 red. Using an old 3000 makes this more difficult because you'll need more than a single ink due to the large dots. The nice thing about the newer printers is that you can mix just a single ink, like the UT7-sepia, and run it all the way to where a dark carbon (UT7-C) and then the black can take over the density formation. To make such a single custom ink, I recommend starting with the light carbon UT7-LC (or the sepia, which might be close) and adding color as needed. If that ends up too dense, the UT1 hextone-Y/quadtone-M is about the lightest pure carbon ink MIS has. The UT-FS-Y is a bit lighter, but has some cooling pigments in it. Good luck. Paul www.PaulRoark.com > -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > mojojones2001 > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 7:54 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Split toning procedure (was Newbie question - > what is duotone?) > > This is very interesting. I've been trying to create a digital > printing method that I used to do in the darkroom. It wasn't really > split toning but achieved a split tonality. I would take a > traditional BW print that had been purposefully printed dark and > bleach it back heavily with a potassium ferrocyanide solution. The > solution would not only bleach the highlights, but stain the upper > tonalities to a yellow/sepia hue. Unfortunately, the technique was > quite difficult to control and even though I got several prints that I > liked it was a hit or miss affair. > > I've been able to duplicate the look to a great degree on the screen > using PhotoShop's duotone function with custom curves but I have yet > to get them to print. Here are some examples: > http://homepage.mac.com/mojojones/display/page1.html If you look at > the detail and duotone dialog you'll notice that the tonality stays > neutral and progressive until about 50% where it becomes light then > shifts to the yellow tone for the upper tones prematurely bleeding off > to white (the bleached effect). > > I first tried to print these images with standard color inks but the > neutral tones where not neutral. So after reading about MIS viable > tone inks I thought maybe I could to it in a similar way. So I set up > an old 3000 with the FSN inkset and replaced the Magenta place with a > custom mixed yellow/sepia tint the was a similar density to the K tint > it replaced. I've only just started experimenting but as yet the > results haven't been to acceptable. I'm not getting enough density in > the yellow/sepia tones and they are going green due to the blue tint. > I'll probably have to add some black to increase the density of the > custom tint and restrict the blue tint to the lower tones. > > John J. > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. 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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Split toning procedure (was Newbie question - what is duotone?)
2005-07-30 by Paul Roark
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