Digital BW, The Print

I don't think there is any printer that can do excellent color and B&W aside
from the 2400 (and its larger versions) without switching inks.  The 2200
with QTR can do a good job and would be the second best choice if ink
switching is out of the question.  The color inksets really have trouble
with B&W if they don't have at least one gray ink in addition to the black
ink.  Color tints, cross-overs, metamerism, etc. just can't be avoided
without a gray ink.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:52 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Which B&W printer for my purposes?
> 
> I'd love that printer.  Unfortunately it's well out of the ballpark.
> 
> I was just looking at a review the Epson R800, but apparently that's
> a little disappointing with B&W.
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > I think the Epson 2400 is the one, if it's in the price ballpark.
> >
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jason
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 6:23 PM
> > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Digital BW] Which B&W printer for my purposes?
> > >
> > > Howdy all - I just got introduced to this group.
> > >
> > > I'm currently studying photography at TAFE (tertiary education),
> and
> > > at the moment we're concentrating entirely on B&W (so this group
> > > should be quite useful!).
> > >
> > > Now, the printer I currently own is a Canon i70 (I use a DSLR),
> but
> > > I want to upgrade.
> > >
> > > I also want the printer to be good at colour, as well as printing
> > > good, neutral B&W.  Because of that I'm not willing to go and
> > > dedicate a printer entirely to B&W, so I need something that can
> do
> > > both (besides, I'd have to import the inks from the US - bit of a
> > > nuisance, and I need a new printer ASAP).
> > >
> > > I've been looking around at various Canon, Epson and HP
> > > printers...my budget?  Well, to make it easier (due to differing
> > > currencies), the Pixma iP5000 is comfortably within my budget.  I
> > > could be convinced to spend the equivalent of the iP8500.  I
> don't
> > > really want to spend the money on the i9950 (I believe it's the
> > > i9900 in the US), but I could manage it if I had to...
> > >
> > > Any recommendations?
> > >
> > > I've had the HP 8450 recommended to me.  The Epson 2100 looked
> > > decent (I've had the 2200 recommended to me, but I don't think
> that
> > > model is available in Australia), but I have no idea how much
> that
> > > costs, and it's been discontinued anyway
> > >
> > >
> > >
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