Digital BW, The Print

Note that I also have curves for a number of glossy papers when Photo Black
is loaded.  See the bottom section of
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/UT2-curves.html .  The neutral one does not
take advantage of the second LM in the Y position.

Where you have a second LM in the Y spot, you might also consider getting
the ramp reasonably close with sliders (driver set to Color Controls) and
then using a monotone curve for the final linearization.  This is the
approach I've started to use for the C86 when I'm using it to work up images
for the larger printers.  If you can get the tone you like with the sliders
and the contrast reasonably close, the use of a monotone curve is something
many find well within what they can do.  So, it gets you closer to being in
full control of your inkset.  See
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/Monotone_Curves.htm for a tutorial on
adjusting monotone curves.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul
> Roark
> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:17 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] 1280 UT2 without sepia; plus, some archival
> questions
> 
> Ben,
> 
> Since the Eboni and sepia were replaced, and neither are used by the
> glossy
> neutral curves, the system should still be able to print with the curve
> and
> look exactly like it did before.
> 
> My UT2 Readme file is at http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/UT2-Readme.htm.
> 
> For Ilford Galerie Smooth Pearl & Glossy, I recommend these settings:
> Media
> type: "Photo Quality Ink Jet paper;" Sliders: For neutral: C +5, M -5; for
> warm: C -15, M +10, Y +25, Contrast -5 might help open up shadows.
> 
> Be sure you're using "Color Controls" checked; Mode - Vivid.
> 
> PKN should not affect the image in the midtone at all.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben
> > Rosengart
> > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 4:20 PM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 1280 UT2 without sepia; plus, some archival
> > questions
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 06:46:26PM -0400, Ben Rosengart wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 03:27:36PM -0700, Paul Roark wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Frankly, if I was printing only glossy paper I'd put in PKN as well
> as
> > > > replace the sepia with UT2-LM (light carbon).  This will give a
> better
> > tone
> > > > with the Epson driver and sliders.
> > >
> > > Ok, I will give that a try.
> >
> > And I have.  First time filling cartridges.  Good messy fun.  Here's
> > what I'm doing:
> >
> >   Ilford Smooth Pearl
> >   neutral tone
> >
> >   now: PKN, UT2-LM replacing sepia, sliders
> >   before: Eboni (not used, I think), stock UT2 set, curves
> >
> > My first print under the new regime came out with blocked up shadows,
> > and far too cool.  I'm surprised at the temperature difference, but
> > maybe it's because the slider settings recommended at
> > <http://www.inksupply.com/ut2comments.cfm> are intended for use
> > with PK, and I'm using PKN.  Advice on how to fix these problems
> > would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > --
> >  Ben Rosengart
> ben@...
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