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Re: [Digital BW] print sales - longevity claims?

2001-12-19 by Todd Flashner

Forgot to add that what I said didn't matter, they wanted to speak with
other gallery friends, but hey, I had to say something.

"I don't know", "could be weeks, could be years", "don't ask me, ask
Wilhelm" etc., doesn't cut it either.

The first question the owner asked me was why I've chosen to work with these
materials; then how long they'll last. However flawed our logic or
predictions are in this matter, it's important we be in touch with why we do
use them, and what faith we do have in them. If I had no trust in them I
just wouldn't use them, like I don't use my 1270 inks for anything I care
about. If you do have faith in them I think there is no harm in stating it.
If you don't have faith in them, well, send them as postcards or keep 'em in
dark storage.

Todd

> I certainly agree and I wish you luck. You won't be the first who's requested
> as much from IJM.
> 
> The other thing I told a gallery was that I'd bet my house that my prints
> would outlast the Mixed Media prints they had hanging and were selling for
> $700 ea. (about 11"x11"). These to my eye were an amalgam of offset press
> materials (wrapping papers I think), inkjet, acrylics, and of course,
> adhesives. I bet that artist wasn't even asked how long theirs would last...
> 
> Todd
> 
>> I feel so too Todd, and feel so based on this same chain of
>> reasoning. But while this persuades us, I don't think it's useful
>> promo. In fact, I'm afraid that some people's eyes would glaze over
>> and they would be reminded of the last car or computer sales person
>> who talked too fast about technicalities they didn't understand.
>> Especially if they heard from the Iris printer that actually the
>> paper in the 100-year test wasn't Hahnemuhle at all and was coated
>> with a different coating and here's a web site to prove it. We could
>> try to explain that away, if we got a chance, but once you get in a
>> position of having to explain things away, I think you've lost. So I
>> wouldn't say what you and Julian say, not because I don't believe
>> it's true, but because I think it's better to say too little than too
>> much. What I do think we should say to IJM (and other vendors) is
>> that we need test results at RIT or Wilhelm to which we can point.
>> 
>> Sam

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