Jamie, > > 1) with ref to Glossy/Semigloss and Lustre only, should I try to use > all six inks to produce the various hues I want; neutral, cool and > warm? Yes. The only time you'd need to cut out the cool inks entirely is if you wanted carbon, which is quite warm. I'd guess most prefer a medium warm. You can download one of my curve for that and see the relative mix that gets you there. > > 2) is BO and 2K black printing with PKN and FSN-y not a good idea? I'm just not sure why one would want to do it, but then to me BO is the way one gets B&W and color in a non-K3 machine without a rip. However, it's easy enough to try all the combinations and see if you like the mix. > 3) Quote - "I favor using all the inks unless you want a pure carbon > print, in which case the PKN and FSN-Y are probably not the best > choices." I don't understand this at all, I must be missing > something very basic somewhere, I thought they were all carbon > inks, please correct me as to where my thinking is going wrong, In the UT2 inkset the M and LM are "pure carbon" (plus a base and probably some edge-effect treatment to the carbon for various purposes. Carbon is by nature very warm, at least at the current level of technology. The cooler inks, which include PKN and FSN-Y, are made cooler by mixing in some color pigments. The cooler inks are still predominantly carbon, however. Hope this helps. Paul www.PaulRoark.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > message from Paul Roark: > > Jamie, > > > > > I've opted to put together a second 1290 setup using spongeless > > carts with UT2 inks, and taking your advice [below] I've put PKN in > > the K position and FSN-y in the yellow position. > > > > Now just to check I've got my options correct, before I start curve > > building for QTR: (with ref to Glossy/Semigloss and Lustre only,) > > > > 1) BO using PKN > > 2) 2K using PKN and FSN-y > > 3) 4K using PKN, M, LM and FSN-y > > The UT2 M and LM are warm carbon. They were meant to be mixed with > the cool UT2 C & LC on the paper. > > > 4) and finally all 6 inks for a neutral rendition (or maybe a cool > > curve that could be blended with the warmer carbon curve to give a > > neutral might be better choice?) > > I favor using all the inks unless you want a pure carbon print, in > which case the PKN and FSN-Y are probably not the best choices. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > _________________________________________ > > > > > Original message from Paul Roark: > > > > Jamie, > > > > You can print a good black with the UT2 and Eboni installed. The > > curves just use the 2 dark grays to generate the black. So, if you > > have any interest in printing on matte paper, I'd just leave the > > Eboni installed as is. > > > > If you have no interest in matte paper, then I'd put MIS PKN > > (neutral photo black) in the K position. It gets a better dmax than > > the standard PK, and it also avoids the warm cross-over that occurs > > if pure carbon is used as a black ink. > > > > On advantage to the PKN is that you'd be able to print from > > grayscale files using the sliders and no curves. If you don't want > > sepia and like neutral to cool glossy prints, you can also remove > > the sepia toner in the yellow spot and replace it with a carbon > > ink - the UT2 LM, UT1 Y, or even the FS-Y (or FSN-y for cooler > > prints). 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RE: [Digital BW] Permajet MonoChrome Pro ink formulation
2005-09-20 by Paul Roark
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