what printer and what ink? On the 2400, PSM works good with the PSG setting, and looks nearly the same. There is a diferent kind of gloss diff on the 2400. It's just a hair more obvious on the extreme highlights than PSG On Oct 13, 2005, at 7:50 PM, Doug Wolf wrote: > Well - I've tried the Premium Semimatte, and the results are ... > interesting. First observation - the surface is much more fragile > than either the PSG or PL papers. Since it only comes 17x22, I > ordered one pack of that, and cut down a couple of sheets in 4's to > have some 8.5x11's to work with. Just the act of lining the paper up > on the Rotatrim caused some fine scratching of the surface that > interferes with even ink deposition. > > This is a lower contrast and lighter, overall, printing paper than > PSG, using the PSG profile. With the PL profile seems to produce > about the same lightness, but less contrast than PL. But the absolute > black (L=0) zones are ... wierd. I have curves for coated paper that > leave out the black and only use C, LC, M and LM inks, and do a great > job on PSG or PL, without gloss differential in the blacks, and only a > small gloss differntial in the whites. PSM, on the other hand, has no > gloss differential in the whites, but the pure (L=0, only) blacks are > duller, and have a puddling appearance that is just strange. Going > into Photoshop and adjusting the levels so that the lowest black level > is L=2 instead of L=0 solved the problem without having to create an > all new curve (and the min L=2 still produces a pretty rich black), > but before doing that, the visual effect was just strange. Backwards > bronzing - it has a different look than if you use MK on RC paper, and > doesn't rub off, but it nevertheless has a differant "surface > character". > > Anyway, sorry for the rambling post - just thought there might be one > or two of you interested in the outcome of this discussion. > > D > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > > > Doug, > > > > Try some Costco Kirkland Glossy inkjet paper and Epson Premium > Semimatte. > > Both are significantly better with respect to bronzing than the > Premium > > Semigloss. If one looks very critically at them there is still a > gloss > > differential between the paper white and areas with significant > density, but > > the obnoxious bronzing is virtually gone. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Digital wedding photography Learn digital photography Digital > photography college > Digital photography Digital photography web site Digital > photography course > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] No more (ok, very little) matte paper for me ... (was - Matte p
2005-10-14 by Douglas meeuwsen
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