Digital BW, The Print

Thank you everybody,

I certainly feel much more confident about the direction to go in 
after your collective input. I will not rule out importing paper from 
the US despite the shock you get when the courier demands the tax COD.
I am about a month away from buying the printer. No point in getting 
it until I have the time to devote to testing materials and settings -
- I don't want it sitting idle while the warranty slowly expires!
Best wishes to all.
Pete.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Doyle" 
<jdoyle1713@c...> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys..
> 
> if I can help I will..But in the UK Innova Is Produced There!
> 
> contact Mark Messina at markm@i...
> 
> 
>             Stock is on the shelf in the UK, product is produced 
there :)
> 
> 
> Jim Doyle
> 
> 
> J. Doyle Enterprises LLC
> 114 Old Orchard Rd
> Cherry Hill, NJ 08003
> 856-424-8660
> http://www.shadesofpaper.com
> AOL IM: Brokerup99
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of 
Ernst
> Dinkla
>   Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:41 PM
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Dmax with Epson 2400 on matte media - 
UK paper
> suppliers
> 
> 
>   Steve, you wrote:
> 
>   > What's your cost of 17in HPR 308?  What's VAT in The 
Netherlands? BTW
> you
>   > never popped into this discussion in the WF Group when people 
(incl
> Steve
>   > Gledhill) asked for prices from European suppliers.
> 
>   Don't know the HPR 308 17" price here but the same site I
>   mentioned has prices for HM papers. AFAIK I have given the
>   same address before in the WF group. The HM papers at 36 and
>   44 " are even with the best reductions still more expensive
>   per sqm than the Innova papers of the same quality.
>   VAT is 19% here but I run a business so don't count that part.
> 
>   > A guy sitting in the UK has still got to get your Netherlands 
product to
> the
>   > UK.  No duty would be payable on goods from the Netherlands of 
course
> and it
>   > is highly unlikely to added by UK Customs on goods sent from 
Shades of
>   > Paper.  At worst, and again this is very unlikely for irregular
> shipments,
>   > 17.5% VAT will be levied re goods shipped from the US on the 
cost of
> goods
>   > plus postage (ie landed value), plus a £12 processing fee.
> 
>   Again I don't count the VAT, if I have to pay, I can also
>   deduct again. At the same time I have to be careful with
>   import tax. The occasional package may not be observed but it
>   counts up and customs here can add a lot up over the years
>   when they think you cheated them as a business. Paper just
>   isn't that cheaper in the US, delivery time longer and sending
>   rolls back when they are not good is a hassle.
> 
>   > I don't think Innova product is sold here in the UK.  If I am 
wrong will
>   > someone please correct me as that will provide another 
interesting price
>   > comparison.
> 
>   This can't be true.
>   http://www.innovaart.com/contact.html
>   If you check the contact page you will see that Mark Messina
>   is located in the UK. He should know who sells it in the UK.
>   There are pound prices at their site:
>   http://www.innovaart.com/fine_price_soft.html
> 
>   The brothers Bol mentioned on the contact page are involved in
>   Innova but also the men behind www.arca-nl.nl, the distributor
>   in The Netherlands.
>   If there's no UK solution ask the price at Arca-nl. They speak
>   or write English and it could well be that though the
>   communication goes through their business the delivery might
>   be directly from a warehouse in the UK. AFAIK, at least part
>   of the production is UK based.
> 
>                       --
>              Ernst Dinkla
> 
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