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[Digital BW] Re: 2400 Shadow separation and linearity . . .

2005-10-22 by Tyler Boley

Very strange, something has changed with the paper then, or the 2400
does some kind of magic.
I've never seen a dmax that high from a pigment K on a coated fine art
paper.
Not questioning your result, just suprised.
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
<scho@m...> wrote:
>
> Tyler,
> 
> I had the same findings as Walt concerning VFA vs HPR dmax with the  
> 2400 and k3 MK ink.  HPR about 1.64 and VFA 1.78, both using the VFA  
> media setting.  I tried the other media choices but couldn't get any  
> higher with the HPR.  This is using the Epson driver and ABW mode.   
> Probably need to do some fiddling with the driver controls or better  
> yet just use QTR for the Hahnemuhle papers.  I haven't made any 2400  
> QTR profiles yet for matte papers, so I don't know if a higher dmax  
> is possible.
> 
> Carl
> 
> On Oct 22, 2005, at 2:46 PM, Tyler Boley wrote:
> 
> > Velvet Fine Art is simply rebranded Somerset. Though it is nice paper
> > the Hahnemühle papers have always been able to get a higher dmax and
> > ink load. In comparing Innova to Hahnemühle I would expect it to
> > outperform Somerset as well.
> > I'm not knocking Somerset, I've seen many nice prints on it, but
> > something unusual must be going on with your tests. Perhaps there are
> > other settings that would take better advantage of the other papers'
> > capabilities.
> > Somerset still has one of the nicest surfaces ever produced for our  
> > use.
> > Tyler
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "wwodets"
> > <odets@c...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> A friend has just sent me an unmanaged 51-step gray file printed from
> >> his 2400 and I compared it with the same target printed with my 2400.
> >> Both targets were printed on Velvet Fine Art, ABW Neutral (Darker).
> >> For the 90, 92, 94, 96, 98 and 100 steps the measured values are  
> >> shown
> >> first for his printer and then in parentheses for my printer:
> >>
> >> 19.46 (19.38); 17.67 (17.60); 16.63 (16.41); 15.53 (15.48; 14.36
> >> (14.47); 13.84 (13.83).
> >>
> >> So, it seems to me that the consistency between these two  
> >> inexpensive,
> >> uncalibrated printers is remarkable; and I would point out again that
> >> the shadow separation, linearity and D-max of this paper seems much
> >> better than anything else I have measured or than has been  
> >> discussed on
> >> the forum over the past few days.  My corresponding figures for  
> >> the HPR
> >> (VFA paper setting) are:
> >>
> >> 18.39, 17.63, 17.14, 16.94, 16.69, 16.80.
> >>
> >> Walt
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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