Digital BW, The Print

Harvey-

I suspect you will love the 7000.

Actually, the price isn't the biggest deterrent for me right now... 
Space is my curse... I'm still working in my converted wet darkroom 
(sink replaced with counter)... I have 2 1160s, a 1270, a Kodak 8660 
and a scanner taking all the counter top... I love having the 
flexibility to print piezo on one, lyson small gamut on the other, 
etc... Even if I was willing to buy 4 7000s, they just wouldn't 
fit!!! 

I think I'd better find some hextones in cartridge format to try on 
the 1270... If I convert that to BW use, I'll get a 1280 for color... 
But I'm going to need some kind of rack to stack these puppies...

I thought converting to digital was going to have LESS junk in the 
dark room than before....

Thanks,

Tom O'Connell

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., SKID Photography 
<skid@b...> wrote:
> > What do you recommend as a substitute?
> >
> > Tom O'Connell
> >
> 
> Tom,
> Sorry, but I am of no help...I only know what I have seen of the 
1160s, and I was underwhelmed.
> 
> We just ordered an Epson 7000, which is a 6 color 24" wide printer, 
but probably more than you want to spend,
> at $3K+.
> 
> Harvey Ferdschneider
> partner, SKID Photography, NYC
> 
> 
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., SKID Photography
> > <skid@b...> wrote:
> > > Having taken part in the last B&W print exchange, I was 
surprised
> > at the amount on banding (or corduroy
> > > patterning) that I saw in a great number of the prints done with
> > the 1160 printers, some more apparent than
> > > others.
> > >
> > > From what I understand it depends on the specific printer as to
> > whether this happens, but given the
> > > percentages that showed the problem in the exchange prints, I 
would
> > not consider the 1160.
> > >
> > > Harvey Ferdschneider
> > > partner, SKID Photography, NYC
> > >
> > > qdfb wrote:
> > >
> > > >  The printer comparison is highly misleading for a true B&W
> > workflow.
> > > > The 1160 is probably the best B&W 13" carriage printer out 
there,
> > > > when used with dedicated B&W inksets.  For example, zero dots 
with
> > > > the Cone Piezography B&W inks and software.
> > > > --
> > > > Quentin
> > > >
> > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "a_pettit_jr"
> > > > <a_pettit_jr@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Hello Barry,
> > > > > Thanks for the information...
> > > > > I found this printer comparison.. how does the 1160 perform
> > > > > with the Quad BW inks ??
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > 
http://www.tssphoto.com/sp/dg/news/13_comp/images/B_W/color/light_squa
> > > > > res.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > 
http://www.tssphoto.com/sp/dg/news/13_comp/images/B_W/color/med_dark.h
> > > > > tml
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > alex p
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Barry Kelsall"
> > > > > <bktimes@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > The 1160 was the last 13" 4-color Epson printer using
> > unchipped
> > > > > carts,
> > > > > > making them ideal for CIS/CFS mods. They are quiet, feed 
thick
> > > > > paper well, &
> > > > > > have a 4 picoliter droplet size. I have 3 1160's running 3
> > > > > different inksets
> > > > > > plus a spare in waiting; my 1200 sees very little use
> > anymore. I
> > > > > use the
> > > > > > original MIS quad for BW, & get prints that look as good 
(or
> > > > > better) than
> > > > > > anything I did in the darkroom.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't know what they cost now, but I would weigh that
> > expense
> > > > vs
> > > > > the
> > > > > > increased cost of buying a chipped CIS & two extra 
bottles of
> > ink
> > > > > for one of
> > > > > > the newer printers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -BK
> > > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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