Digital BW, The Print

Paul, Perhaps I was a bit pretentious myself and a bit too quick 
with the send trigger. 

But, I do read Steve's response to Clayton in its  first few 
sentences to be condescending - and I happen to know via private 
posts that I'm not the only one who reads them as such.  And this 
has been far from the first such thing from him. 

If you find his posts helpful to you - that's great - as long as he 
deletes the insulting bits. I am not wont to be my brother's keeper, 
but do experience these as personally insulting.  If he is arguing a 
point with which you already know and agree - whatever... that does 
not fit my definition of "helpful"...

I must again admit that I do not find his posts helpful to me and, 
of course, I can just hit the delete key.  It's not that I can't 
understand what he's trying to get across (especially when others 
step in to explain what he was trying to say) - its just unhelpful - 
I already know the information, doesn't fit in with my workflow, or 
both.  If I saw an incredible photograph he had produced, I would 
become re-interested - but if such are avaiailable I am not aware of 
where to find them though I am willing to be enlightened. 

Your experience is different -  I guess such things are what makes 
the world go round... I remain

Respectfully yours,

Michael Vendrell


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "bwinkjet" 
<bwinkjet@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
> 
> I'm not quite up there with your knowledge, experience or 
> expertise. ;-)  However I understand what Steve is trying to say 
and 
> did not take his efforts to be an attack on any member of this 
> forum.  He was explaining how GG2.2 distributes gray values.  
Nothing 
> more and nothing less.  I enjoyed his response and felt it was 
> understandable, and I wait for Clayton to respond.  I am not my 
> brother's keeper as you seem won't to be.  Sorry, I just wanted 
> others to know that I did not see Steve's efforts as grandstanding 
or 
> showing off as you seem to think it is.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Paul
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Michael 
Vendrell 
> <mjvendrell2@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Steve Kale:  I can read Aristotle, Nuclear Physics,
> > Isiac Newton and understand them - I even can do a bit
> > of Calculus and use a densitometer and a step wedge -
> > and a slide rule - if that betrays my age.  But I must
> > admit I find your posts mostly unintelligible and
> > completely unhelpful. Mostly your posts leave me at a
> > loss and if misunderstood , you deserve most of the
> > blame for that.
> > 
> > Clayton's, on the other hand, are enormously helpful
> > toward achieving what I'm after- namely beautiful
> > prints. 
> > 
> > If you want to be helpful - as opposed to
> > demonstrating how "smart" you are - you would need to
> > stop being insulting to others and tune up your
> > communication skills.  There are quite a few
> > scientists who can not only think clearly but
> > communicate to other intelligent people in a way that
> > is not insulting, makes sense, and is usable and
> > helpful.  Maybe, you could take a few lessons from
> > others such as Clayton, Paul, and Tyler...I can always
> > hope...
> > 
> > Michael J. Vendrell
> > 
> > --- Steve Kale <stevekale@b...> wrote:
> > 
> > > No Clayton you completely missed my point and a lack
>