Digital BW, The Print

You also might try http://www.pixelpusherz.net/ColorManagement.htm  

These so called small gamut profiles print quite neutral and are only 
$25.  Just a very slight hint of metamerism and with some papers 
nearly identical to QTR... 

I use the semi-matte profile all time. 

SteveB 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
<deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
>
> Personally I've always used profilecity dot com. There are plenty of
> others from what I've heard on these lists. I've always had perfect
> results with Profile Cith, but they are about a $100.00 each. If I
> were you I would ask this question on the yahoo epson large format
> list and also search those archives. Some people have them done for
> half that and are happy. I'd check into that. There are more color
> specialists around over there I imagine.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> "scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@y...> wrote:
> >
> > "As stated before, you need a really good profile to do this."
> > 
> > And, who do you recommend...?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Scott
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
> > <deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have done many things using Ultrachrome with both color and
> > > monochrome content within the same print and have no problem 
> > > producing neutral black and white within that context. Any of 
the
> > > Epson machines that have at least two blacks in them should 
work 
> > fine
> > > for this type of work. I've done it a lot with posters and such 
> > where
> > > I need black and white out of rgb colorspace. 
> > > 
> > > As stated before, you need a really good profile to do this. 
Your
> > > chances of arriving at this neutrality through a generic 
profile are
> > > very slim. You will need to pay someone to make one for you for 
the
> > > specific paper you are using. Atkinsons canned profiles are 
good, 
> > but
> > > usually not that accurate for this type of job.
> > > 
> > > John
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > Can anyone suggest a workaround that will avoid these cross 
> > curves yet
> > > > > retain the colour spots? (Colorspace: Adobe 1998, Epson 
4000, 
> > Epson
> > > > > enhanced matte and Epson EM profile, Epson driver.)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>