Digital BW, The Print

Your system will have a default monitor profile and PS Elements has a
default workspace setup.  Turning colour management off does not disable
these, it only disables the colour management policies.  So PS (I suspect)
will still use the default workspace for an untagged document and then
colour manage the document between this profile and your default monitor
profile to display it.  When you profile your monitor you merely tell your
system to use this new display profile rather than the default.


> From: Paul Roark <paul.roark@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:14:40 -0800
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Comparison: K3 versus Ultrachrome inks on
> Semi-Matte + ImagePri
> 
> Steve,
> 
>> Turning colour management off doesn't turn off a default workspace.
> 
> That may be a matter of definition.  Where is this default space set and
> what is it?  

When you install PS for the first time it installs a bunch of profiles and
sets a default workspace.

>Those with more computer expertise than I can probably answer
> this.  It could be in the system and not Photoshop.

I use a Mac and I guess have the advantage that colour management has been a
normal part of the Mac OS for quite some time now.  As noted above the
system will deploy a default monitor profile.  If it detects a display for
which it has a more accurate profile (eg an Apple Cinema Display) it will
use that profile.  If a custom profile is prepared the profiling software
normally sets that as the default for you at the end of the profiling
process when you save it.

>As a practical matter,
> on my Windows XP, GG 2.2 seems to be the default.  With the growing
> importance of the Web, and it's apparent use of this standard, I'd guess
> most system designers would follow this standard also.

Many web browsers are still not colour management aware.  Those that are
will either pick up the profile stored with an image or if there is no
profile attached then default to sRGB.  When uplinking stuff to the web it
is good practice to append a profile (it doesn't add much to the file size).
As monitors get better and better, you will likely not want to confine your
images to the narrow sRGB space.  This is of course not an issue for now but
I would expect the quality of the average monitor in use to increase
substantially over the next 10 years.
> 
> 
>> Sorry I don't have Elements
> 
> I suspect it will outsell the full PS by orders of magnitude.  I downloaded
> a free trial version and decided it was worth the $50 on eBay (which also
> got me a cheapo digital camera to give my kid).

I'm sure.  It's great value for money.  My girlfriend has it on her Mac.  I
should take a peak...

> 
> 
>> but in PS note that you can turn Colour Management Off but the
>> display of an untagged document still reflects whatever you have
>> in your settings
> 
> In talking to a forum member off list, I think I agree with him that the
> system has loaded a profile into the Color folder that is controlling the
> monitor out of the box.  If one uses a profiling program for the monitor,
> that software is probably in control of the default monitor settings.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
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