Digital BW, The Print

Hola Julian, 

Yes...we disagree on a few things.  (grin)

I personally don't care what kind of inks anyone purchases.  

But...if I were responsible for tech support on the PiezoBW system....I would.  

While the FS inks may deliver "close" or "identical" in your opinion, they are "different" inks.  And, related to the "identical" outcome....I seem to recall that you and others do have to make some adjustments to your image files to get that "close."  In other words, more work (though it may be minor for someone with your skills). 

If someone wants to experiment or try less expensive inks...go for it.  But...I don't think that also means they have the right to complain to Piezo if they are not using Piezo inks.  I don't think anything about PiezoBW says anything about "buy our software and use anybody's inks."  It is not an "open system" but instead is a very well defined proprietary solution....that happens to be an alternative to Epson. 

Microsoft?  I don't agree with your analogy.  

I think if I were in a position to start a small company that aimed to provide the very best highest quality quadtones...and software that is sophisticated and simple for users...(like Piezo)...I would have to limit my tech support to users who "bought the system" and were using inks I know work.   That is what I would do....and I bet so would most others if they were in the same situation.  I for one have always been impressed by the level of support offered for free by Piezo tech support.  Very impressed.  

Anyway...it is good that there are alternatives out there.  I think alternatives are great.  

By the way....I truly hope that Paul Roark can come up with a good Sepia solution as I will be one of the first to buy into it....well....maybe not the very first.  (wink)

Sincerely, 
Steadman 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Julian Thomas 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] inks


  I know we disagree on this Steadman ;-0 But i agree about the piezo
  software - it is very good and worth the initial buy, but after that? The
  inks are not worth the money - now. At one time they were unique, but not
  now.  Having piezo and FS on two printers the quality is identical.
  Interestingly enough a couple of weeks ago someone came to buy prints and he
  ended up buying two. I gave him the choice of different 'versions' of the
  same image i.e. piezo was one and FS the other - he chose the FS prints both
  times. I have only one image that looks 'worse' with FS. I guess Piezo2 is
  going to kick the ball game further forward so I look forward to that - but
  I don't like the Microsoft-like marketing strategy of Piezo - you have to
  buy software and inks - like their bundling god-knows what into their Os
  (email IE etc). There are alternatives!

  Julian
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Steadman Uhlich" <steadmanuhlich@...>
  To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 3:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] inks


  > Dave,
  >
  > When you buy into Piezo, you don't just buy ink...the money you spend  is
  not just inks.  The money you spend on Piezo also buys you the Piezo
  software and about 30 paper profiles for the ink.  That alone is worth the
  money in my opinion.
  >
  > Steadman
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: taylynapowers
  >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  >   Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 7:26 AM
  >   Subject: [Digital BW] inks
  >
  >
  >   I am looking for some information on inks. I will be setting up an
  >   epson 980 for black and white printing.
  >   I have looked at piezography for inks and WOW, what a price.
  >   Are there anyother inks that will do the same job, fine art, for a
  >   lower price?
  >   I want to get away from the cartridge.
  >
  >   thanks
  >
  >   dave
  >
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