Perhaps,
someone out there would like to tell us what other "Black Pigments" are used for Inkjet if not carbon!
John
hogarth@... wrote:
Paul Roark wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>
> > The main disadvantage is the possibility of
> > differential fading over time pushing the print's tone warmer or cooler
> > than you intended.
>
> No, there should be no significant difference here. I believe the K7 inks
> have differing amounts of color pigments mixed in. I may be wrong
> here, but
> I simply don't know of any pure carbon pigments that can print neutral
> over
> the entire range of densities we're interested in. It'll really take
> controlled, comparative fade testing to see what, if any, aging
> differences
> there are from these inksets. The differential fading problem occurs with
> color inksets that attempt to make a gray tone from color inks.
>
> A "neutral" tone that is composed of predominantly carbon will usually
> have
> some color pigments mixed in. These will fade faster than the carbon, but
> the carbon also shifts color. So, there will be color change in either
> case. What usually dominates in a reasonable time span (like one's
> expected
> life span for normal display conditions) is the warming of the
> carbon. (If
> you're using brightened paper, the burning out of the optical brighteners
> may be the largest change -- which is a big reason I prefer paper with no
> OBAs.)
First, I don't know the compositions of the various inks. I don't see
anything on the InkJetMall site that uses the words "carbon pigment"
however. I'm not even sure I now how a carbon pigment ink differs from a
pigment ink. Probably in the amount of carbon, but I have no idea where
that line is drawn.
Second, I didn't say there would be any differential fading. I said
there was a possibility of differential fading. It stands to reason that
the possibility of differential fading would be greater for the inkset
with the most color pigments. And a variable tone inkset is going to
have to have more color pigments than a fixed tone inkset. It's the
color pigments that provide the "variable" in the variable tone inkset
after all.
That doesn't mean that the variable tone inkset will exhibit
differential fading. That the possibility is greater doesn't mean that
the actual amount of differential fading will be noticeable or
objectionable.
--
Bruce Watson
Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page.
Please follow these basic guidelines:
- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short.
- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice.
- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership.
- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/
BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
SPONSORED LINKS
Digital wedding photography Learn digital photography Digital photography college Digital photography Digital photography web site Digital photography course
---------------------------------
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
Visit your group "DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint" on the web.
To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
---------------------------------
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]Message
Re: [Digital BW] Piezography K7 vs. the rest
2005-12-27 by John
Attachments
- No local attachments were found for this message.