Digital BW, The Print

Clayton,

Well put. The only minor clarification: the K3 class of printers have 
significantly REDUCED bronzing, not eliminated it. I can see it when 
holding prints in my hands, I doubt it will be a factor behind glass.

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones" 
<cj@c...> wrote:
>
> Hello Joanne,
> 
> >I can see there's been much discussion about printing b&w on 
glossy 
> >media while I've been away. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if anyone 
> >has answered my question. Yes,I could purchase a 2400 printer, but 
> >until I do, I'm stuck with this 2200 using QTR or Epson drivers. 
I'm 
> >just looking for the best possible solution. Will the UT7 inks 
give 
> >me reduced bronzing? Must I also use a GLOP? I'd like to learn 
more 
> >about this since printing on glossy or semi glossy media is the 
> >industry standard for what I do. Finding a solution is becoming 
> >quite complex and I'm starting to feel like a really dumb broad, 
so 
> >please be patient with me.
> 
> I can't answer your question because I only print matte, but maybe I
> can offer some perspective as an interested observer.  From
> discussions on this forum over the past 2+ years since the 2200
> appeared, it seems that glossy printing has never become perfectly
> satisfactory.  All sorts of things have been tried including glop 
and
> various sprays, with various inks from UC to UT7 to custom mixtures,
> and various softwares from Epson to QTR/IP/IJC, etc., in every
> possible combination.
> 
> My impression is that the latest MIS ink with the new base is about
> as good as it has ever been.  But my sense from reading the posts is
> that it's still not perfectly satisfactory (and if I'm wrong on any 
of
> this I hope other folks will jump in here and maybe you'll get the
> info you need).  My sense is that the search continues, and people 
try
> one thing and aren't fully satisfied and then try something else.  
It
> seems endless, with regular discussions of the merits/demerits of
> various ink/paper/spray/RIP/curve/workflow combinations.
> 
> Out of the fog of battle emerges the 2400 (and other K3 printers),
> which apparently the glossy folks are very happy about.  From what I
> understand, it produces very fine glossy prints without bronzing,
> gloss differential and metamerism, and excellent dmax and 
smoothness,
> with complete tone control and without requiring a RIP (again, if 
I'm
> wrong someone jump in here).
> 
> If the above is true, then it seems that it comes down to whether 
your
> personal techno-fiddling patience threshold allows you to stick with
> the 2200 and duke it out, or whether you're willing to spend the 
money
> to get a 2400 and avoid all the hassles and save time.  Some people
> don't mind tinkering and experimenting (some even love it), and 
others
> have no patience for it and just want to do the photography.
> 
> What is your time worth?  Will the time you spend experimenting with
> the 2200 searching for a satisfactory solution (and the ink/paper 
cost
> of the same) outweigh the cost buying a 2400 and the time/effort of
> selling the 2200?  
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> Regards,
> Clayton
> 
> 
> Info on black and white digital printing at    
> http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
>