Digital BW, The Print

Joanne,

Here it is:

http://www.inksupply.com/arcink_k4.cfm

Please note that this inkset is recommended for 2400, etc printers. 
It includes LLK (which your 2200 does not have). So you will have to 
sacrifice one of the color ink positions on your 2200. I would get 
PK, C, LC, M, LM, LK, and LLK if I were you - you scarifice Y (which 
will limit your ability to print sepia). The esesntial inks are PK, 
LK, LLK, LM, and LC, the rest is up to you.

MIS does not appear to prefill these inks for the 2200, so you will 
have to fill them yourself.

http://www.inksupply.com/epsoncarts_xx.cfm

These do NOT appear to be spongless carts, so there may be some 
filling technique issues (vacuum fill?).

Let me know if you are interested in receiving Epson 2400 K3 prints 
from me, preferably of one of your images.

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Joanne Emerson" 
<jojo_xmodel@y...> wrote:
>
> Shilesh, I'm a little new to this but where can I find more info on 
> the MIS K4 inks? I've searched their website and cannot find any 
> reference to these inks. Can you tell me more about them?
> 
> Jo
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani" 
> <shileshjani@b...> wrote:
> >
> > Joanne,
> > 
> > Look at the last posting by Steve Karafyllakis. He has 
volunteered 
> > to print with MIS K4 inks for you, and I can offer the exact same 
> > photograph printed on a 2400 using Epson K3 inks. Send us an 
email 
> > with the image you want printed.
> > 
> > Shilesh
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Joanne 
> > Emerson" <jojo_xmodel@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you, Clayton!
> > > 
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton 
> > Jones" 
> > > <cj@c...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello Joanne,
> > > > 
> > > > >I can see there's been much discussion about printing b&w on 
> > > glossy 
> > > > >media while I've been away. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if 
> > anyone 
> > > > >has answered my question. Yes,I could purchase a 2400 
> printer, 
> > > but 
> > > > >until I do, I'm stuck with this 2200 using QTR or Epson 
> > drivers. 
> > > I'm 
> > > > >just looking for the best possible solution. Will the UT7 
> inks 
> > > give 
> > > > >me reduced bronzing? Must I also use a GLOP? I'd like to 
> learn 
> > > more 
> > > > >about this since printing on glossy or semi glossy media is 
> the 
> > > > >industry standard for what I do. Finding a solution is 
> becoming 
> > > > >quite complex and I'm starting to feel like a really dumb 
> > broad, 
> > > so 
> > > > >please be patient with me.
> > > > 
> > > > I can't answer your question because I only print matte, but 
> > maybe 
> > > I
> > > > can offer some perspective as an interested observer.  From
> > > > discussions on this forum over the past 2+ years since the 
2200
> > > > appeared, it seems that glossy printing has never become 
> > perfectly
> > > > satisfactory.  All sorts of things have been tried including 
> > glop 
> > > and
> > > > various sprays, with various inks from UC to UT7 to custom 
> > > mixtures,
> > > > and various softwares from Epson to QTR/IP/IJC, etc., in every
> > > > possible combination.
> > > > 
> > > > My impression is that the latest MIS ink with the new base is 
> > about
> > > > as good as it has ever been.  But my sense from reading the 
> > posts 
> > > is
> > > > that it's still not perfectly satisfactory (and if I'm wrong 
> on 
> > > any of
> > > > this I hope other folks will jump in here and maybe you'll 
get 
> > the
> > > > info you need).  My sense is that the search continues, and 
> > people 
> > > try
> > > > one thing and aren't fully satisfied and then try something 
> > else.  
> > > It
> > > > seems endless, with regular discussions of the 
merits/demerits 
> of
> > > > various ink/paper/spray/RIP/curve/workflow combinations.
> > > > 
> > > > Out of the fog of battle emerges the 2400 (and other K3 
> > printers),
> > > > which apparently the glossy folks are very happy about.  From 
> > what 
> > > I
> > > > understand, it produces very fine glossy prints without 
> bronzing,
> > > > gloss differential and metamerism, and excellent dmax and 
> > > smoothness,
> > > > with complete tone control and without requiring a RIP 
(again, 
> > if 
> > > I'm
> > > > wrong someone jump in here).
> > > > 
> > > > If the above is true, then it seems that it comes down to 
> > whether 
> > > your
> > > > personal techno-fiddling patience threshold allows you to 
> stick 
> > > with
> > > > the 2200 and duke it out, or whether you're willing to spend 
> the 
> > > money
> > > > to get a 2400 and avoid all the hassles and save time.  Some 
> > people
> > > > don't mind tinkering and experimenting (some even love it), 
> and 
> > > others
> > > > have no patience for it and just want to do the photography.
> > > > 
> > > > What is your time worth?  Will the time you spend 
> experimenting 
> > > with
> > > > the 2200 searching for a satisfactory solution (and the 
> > ink/paper 
> > > cost
> > > > of the same) outweigh the cost buying a 2400 and the 
> time/effort 
> > of
> > > > selling the 2200?  
> > > > 
> > > > I hope this helps.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Clayton
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Info on black and white digital printing at    
> > > > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> > > >
> > >
> >
>