Digital BW, The Print

Thank you, Shilesh, I'll check it out, don't leave town as I'm sure 
I'll have more questions...lol.

Jo

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani" 
<shileshjani@b...> wrote:
>
> Joanne,
> 
> Here it is:
> 
> http://www.inksupply.com/arcink_k4.cfm
> 
> Please note that this inkset is recommended for 2400, etc 
printers. 
> It includes LLK (which your 2200 does not have). So you will have 
to 
> sacrifice one of the color ink positions on your 2200. I would get 
> PK, C, LC, M, LM, LK, and LLK if I were you - you scarifice Y 
(which 
> will limit your ability to print sepia). The esesntial inks are 
PK, 
> LK, LLK, LM, and LC, the rest is up to you.
> 
> MIS does not appear to prefill these inks for the 2200, so you 
will 
> have to fill them yourself.
> 
> http://www.inksupply.com/epsoncarts_xx.cfm
> 
> These do NOT appear to be spongless carts, so there may be some 
> filling technique issues (vacuum fill?).
> 
> Let me know if you are interested in receiving Epson 2400 K3 
prints 
> from me, preferably of one of your images.
> 
> Shilesh
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Joanne 
Emerson" 
> <jojo_xmodel@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Shilesh, I'm a little new to this but where can I find more info 
on 
> > the MIS K4 inks? I've searched their website and cannot find any 
> > reference to these inks. Can you tell me more about them?
> > 
> > Jo
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh 
Jani" 
> > <shileshjani@b...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Joanne,
> > > 
> > > Look at the last posting by Steve Karafyllakis. He has 
> volunteered 
> > > to print with MIS K4 inks for you, and I can offer the exact 
same 
> > > photograph printed on a 2400 using Epson K3 inks. Send us an 
> email 
> > > with the image you want printed.
> > > 
> > > Shilesh
> > > 
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Joanne 
> > > Emerson" <jojo_xmodel@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thank you, Clayton!
> > > > 
> > > > --- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton 
> > > Jones" 
> > > > <cj@c...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Joanne,
> > > > > 
> > > > > >I can see there's been much discussion about printing b&w 
on 
> > > > glossy 
> > > > > >media while I've been away. Unfortunately, I'm not sure 
if 
> > > anyone 
> > > > > >has answered my question. Yes,I could purchase a 2400 
> > printer, 
> > > > but 
> > > > > >until I do, I'm stuck with this 2200 using QTR or Epson 
> > > drivers. 
> > > > I'm 
> > > > > >just looking for the best possible solution. Will the UT7 
> > inks 
> > > > give 
> > > > > >me reduced bronzing? Must I also use a GLOP? I'd like to 
> > learn 
> > > > more 
> > > > > >about this since printing on glossy or semi glossy media 
is 
> > the 
> > > > > >industry standard for what I do. Finding a solution is 
> > becoming 
> > > > > >quite complex and I'm starting to feel like a really dumb 
> > > broad, 
> > > > so 
> > > > > >please be patient with me.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I can't answer your question because I only print matte, 
but 
> > > maybe 
> > > > I
> > > > > can offer some perspective as an interested observer.  From
> > > > > discussions on this forum over the past 2+ years since the 
> 2200
> > > > > appeared, it seems that glossy printing has never become 
> > > perfectly
> > > > > satisfactory.  All sorts of things have been tried 
including 
> > > glop 
> > > > and
> > > > > various sprays, with various inks from UC to UT7 to custom 
> > > > mixtures,
> > > > > and various softwares from Epson to QTR/IP/IJC, etc., in 
every
> > > > > possible combination.
> > > > > 
> > > > > My impression is that the latest MIS ink with the new base 
is 
> > > about
> > > > > as good as it has ever been.  But my sense from reading 
the 
> > > posts 
> > > > is
> > > > > that it's still not perfectly satisfactory (and if I'm 
wrong 
> > on 
> > > > any of
> > > > > this I hope other folks will jump in here and maybe you'll 
> get 
> > > the
> > > > > info you need).  My sense is that the search continues, 
and 
> > > people 
> > > > try
> > > > > one thing and aren't fully satisfied and then try 
something 
> > > else.  
> > > > It
> > > > > seems endless, with regular discussions of the 
> merits/demerits 
> > of
> > > > > various ink/paper/spray/RIP/curve/workflow combinations.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Out of the fog of battle emerges the 2400 (and other K3 
> > > printers),
> > > > > which apparently the glossy folks are very happy about.  
From 
> > > what 
> > > > I
> > > > > understand, it produces very fine glossy prints without 
> > bronzing,
> > > > > gloss differential and metamerism, and excellent dmax and 
> > > > smoothness,
> > > > > with complete tone control and without requiring a RIP 
> (again, 
> > > if 
> > > > I'm
> > > > > wrong someone jump in here).
> > > > > 
> > > > > If the above is true, then it seems that it comes down to 
> > > whether 
> > > > your
> > > > > personal techno-fiddling patience threshold allows you to 
> > stick 
> > > > with
> > > > > the 2200 and duke it out, or whether you're willing to 
spend 
> > the 
> > > > money
> > > > > to get a 2400 and avoid all the hassles and save time.  
Some 
> > > people
> > > > > don't mind tinkering and experimenting (some even love 
it), 
> > and 
> > > > others
> > > > > have no patience for it and just want to do the 
photography.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What is your time worth?  Will the time you spend 
> > experimenting 
> > > > with
> > > > > the 2200 searching for a satisfactory solution (and the 
> > > ink/paper 
> > > > cost
> > > > > of the same) outweigh the cost buying a 2400 and the 
> > time/effort 
> > > of
> > > > > selling the 2200?  
> > > > > 
> > > > > I hope this helps.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Clayton
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Info on black and white digital printing at    
> > > > > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>